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Would you let your 15 1/2 year old read American Psycho?

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HardRockOwl · 26/08/2022 17:35

I can't work out if I've had a flash of inspiration or not.

My DS won't read a book. I supply one in his rucksack as they're required to have them for daily reading and all he does is doodle in it/ fold pages / categorically not read it

No matter what genre, he won't look at it.

He likes horror films and he's mentioned the film American psycho to me a few times - I've said no to watching it for now as it's an 18 but I'm also sure he's watched a few 18 rated films

Anyway - I suddenly thought 'I bet if I put American Pyscho on his bag, he'll actually start reading it as he will be curious!' And I think this will be the case

But is it weird? Will the teachers be concerned? (Hes going into year 11 and is 16 in December) I mean, it's practically a modern classic isn't it?

WWYD? I'm in two minds

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AdInfinitum12 · 26/08/2022 20:12

Such as "Infected" by James Schannep, a choose your own adventure book for adults where you're trying to survive the zombie apocalypse.

AdInfinitum12 · 26/08/2022 20:06

Luredbyapomegranate · 26/08/2022 19:44

@AdInfinitum12

Jesus Christ. He’s nearly 16, not eight and a half.

And if you try reading again you'll see I said there must be some for older teens/adults. There are certainly app games for adults with this as their entire premise, I don't see why there wouldn't be similar books for older teens. So maybe pipe the fuck down you snotty little cow :)

ignatiusjreilly · 26/08/2022 20:03

I would say definitely not. I read it in my 20s and still wish I hadn't. If it had been recommended to me by my mother, I'd never have been able to look at her again.

Have you read it recently? I'm wondering if you've forgotten how awful it is.

Twiglets1 · 26/08/2022 19:59

Read it yourself first if you haven’t already. I did find it the most graphic book I’ve ever read and I’m not squeamish normally. I’m never normally shocked by stuff I read in books but this book was next level, honestly.

CheeseplantJungle · 26/08/2022 19:58

I (skim) read American Psycho for a college based adult-ed evening class, and felt it was a totally inappropriate choice by the teacher. I don’t think of myself as excessively prudish but I once avoided sitting next to someone on the train as they were reading it. Personally I’d no more give it to a reluctant reader DC than I’d try teaching a non-verbal toddler swear words to interest them in speech.

Thereisnolight · 26/08/2022 19:57

BeanieTeen · 26/08/2022 19:13

It’s tricky because obviously schools do have to push and promote reading for pleasure - for good reason to an extent, research does show that on the whole it has big benefits, especially in young children - but I think towards the end of secondary school they should just ease off with this a bit. Daily reading seems unnecessary and not a great use of time, especially if some kids do just get away with doodling in their reading books. Some people just don’t enjoy the process of reading a book, it’s not fast paced enough, and that should be ok and accepted. You don’t have to be an avid book reader to be a well rounded adult - and I say this as an avid book reader! You’ve done your best with this I think OP, I think when you’ve got to the point where you’re considering American Psycho you’ve definitely given it your all!

Agree.

Thereisnolight · 26/08/2022 19:56

I read it at 19 - thought it was dull so fast forwarded to the torture scenes because of how notorious they were.

This is what your DS will do.
So it’s not really reading as such.

Rinatinabina · 26/08/2022 19:53

“Mouth open story jump out” has stayed with me forever, I read that when I was about 8. Really good collection of myths that scared the shit out of me.

Rinatinabina · 26/08/2022 19:51

The passage by justin cronin, it’s not graphic in the way psycho is but it’s good and if he gets into it he’ll finish the trilogy - he’ll have read three books. It’s a good read.

Luredbyapomegranate · 26/08/2022 19:44

AdInfinitum12 · 26/08/2022 19:18

What about one of those choose your own adventure books? I'm sure there must be some suitable for older teens/adults. At the end of each chapter he has to make a decision, which then dictates what happens to his character and what chapter is read next.

@AdInfinitum12

Jesus Christ. He’s nearly 16, not eight and a half.

Luredbyapomegranate · 26/08/2022 19:42

Sure. He will, as you say, probably read it, and there are good things about it. It’s very funny in parts.

AdInfinitum12 · 26/08/2022 19:18

What about one of those choose your own adventure books? I'm sure there must be some suitable for older teens/adults. At the end of each chapter he has to make a decision, which then dictates what happens to his character and what chapter is read next.

BeanieTeen · 26/08/2022 19:13

It’s tricky because obviously schools do have to push and promote reading for pleasure - for good reason to an extent, research does show that on the whole it has big benefits, especially in young children - but I think towards the end of secondary school they should just ease off with this a bit. Daily reading seems unnecessary and not a great use of time, especially if some kids do just get away with doodling in their reading books. Some people just don’t enjoy the process of reading a book, it’s not fast paced enough, and that should be ok and accepted. You don’t have to be an avid book reader to be a well rounded adult - and I say this as an avid book reader! You’ve done your best with this I think OP, I think when you’ve got to the point where you’re considering American Psycho you’ve definitely given it your all!

Dogsgottabone · 26/08/2022 19:04

I read it age 17 and I'm 44 now.

The rat scene stayed with me in the same way as some of the graphic scenes in the Underground Railroad.

I am a massive fan of encouraging children to read anything. But would I suggest it? No.

However if DC chose to read it I wouldn't stop them.

BananaSpanner · 26/08/2022 19:03

Im surprised at all these people saying go for it. As you know because you’ve read it yourself, it contains really detailed, explicit sexual violence against women. I don’t think it’s appropriate for a 15 year old especially at school.
Get him another book, whether he reads it or not as requested by the school is a matter between him and the school.

HardRockOwl · 26/08/2022 18:58

@TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross and that's what I'd be doing. Trying to grab his attention to actually read something - because he's supposed to at school. Not just message about and make paper planes out of the book pages!

I always supply a good book! He won't read any so I think I'd momentarily lost my senses for a moment there - I'll just do my usual and get him something mildly diverting

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HardRockOwl · 26/08/2022 18:55

I think I'd blanked out a few of these very graphic descriptions so it's an absolute no!

I'm going to get him Pet Semetary or something and have done with it!

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rosiepozis · 26/08/2022 18:44

I read it younger than that, about 13, didn’t find it scarring. Mostly because it was so over the top that I couldn’t take it seriously. I’d say let him read it, I don’t think teachers would care

Houseplantmad · 26/08/2022 18:24

Have you tried graphic novels (given his doodling). Huge variety of genres. DS loves them and is usually glued to one whereas he could take or leave a book of just text.

Bestcatmum · 26/08/2022 18:20

It's a vile book. It made me physically sick. I was so disgusted I chucked it in the bin.

Speedweed · 26/08/2022 18:18

No way - the book is seriously awful and far too graphic for a teenage boy. I had to stop reading towards the end as a grown woman because the explicit description of how he tortured two prostitutes, which included cutting the face off one and being able to see her teeth and the sinews of her jaw working as she gave another character oral sex in the hope he wouldn't kill her just too much.

It is so, so nasty - the violence is largely sexual against women who he then describes dismembering and putting in his freezer. Pages and pages of it.

I don't know that a teenage boy would be able to process it properly, as the sex is quite titillating and then turns gory. It's great writing from that perspective as it creates a peculiar feeling in the reader, but the film sanitises the sex and torture in comparison to what's on the page.

thistimelastweek · 26/08/2022 18:09

I've always believed that books are pretty much self-censoring; the reader won't persist if the book is beyond their emotional or intellectual capacity.

Even so, American Psycho is a very hard read. The sexual violence is graphic and extreme and I'm not sure I'd want a teenager reading it without actually understanding the book. Mind you, he might struggle to get past the tedious descriptions of luxury products.

I'd be more inclined to recommend Jack Reacher.

Kindofcrunchy · 26/08/2022 18:08

By 12 I'd read everything my parents had on the bookshelf, including Janet evanovich and jilly Cooper... I'd say let him read whatever he wants

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 26/08/2022 18:07

Lavendersparkles22 · 26/08/2022 17:45

It's fine. I'm an English teacher in Scotland so probably less uptight than my colleagues South of the border though. Remember the long rambling narrative off topic may disengage him if he's not an adept reader, he may not get the nuances of what this says about Patrick and bore him further!

Fuck off with your sad little stereotypes.

American Psycho has been used by schools as a sixth form coursework text. However, I don’t think it’s a great idea to use it just to try to shock your DS into reading. If one of my Year 11s was reading it in class, I’d definitely chat to them about their choice.

HardRockOwl · 26/08/2022 18:04

@BeanieTeen when you put it like that .. Grin I was thinking more the modern classic angle

Ok I'm going back to the drawing board on this one

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