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What do you look for in a novel?

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suiledonn · 16/01/2008 14:41

After reading most of the recent thread about authors whose success is a mystery to you I am wondering what do you look for in a novel? I am stunned by some of the names mentioned in the other thread and wonder what does it take to impress the modern reader. I love any story that is well written with characters that come alive. I like everything from modern American literature to classics with some murder mystery thrown in for good measure.

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chrissnow · 19/01/2008 13:00

I can understand that.

UnquietDad · 18/01/2008 23:49

chrissnow - I've been happy to send anyone who has messaged me details of my website, but I don't post it on here because it's quite fun to keep my anonymity to some extent!

chrissnow · 18/01/2008 21:31

Now UQD I have a quandry. Would love to read some of your work purely on the basis 'I know you' (as in MN world have seen you around) BUT that is quite an issue...
a) you would have to give away your real life persona in some way
b) If I hated it I would have to avoid you forever
c) If I didn't understand it I would have to avoid MN forever!!!
I have based a few novel choices on the author being from my very small hometown (and boy was I disappointed!!)

UnquietDad · 18/01/2008 21:14

Nothing wrong with second-hand for the reader, but the writer gets nowt!

Elasticwoman · 18/01/2008 19:14

What's wrong with 2nd hand, UQD? Very environmentally friendly.

Did any one like 84 Charing Cross Road?

Yes i know it's by an american UQD but did you read it?

UnquietDad · 18/01/2008 00:53

We have a Kent Haruf on the shelf.
I don't boycott Americans, I limit them!

UnquietDad · 18/01/2008 00:52

secondhand, elasticwoman - secondhand?!

OverMyDeadBody · 17/01/2008 22:48

I give a book 35 pages to get me gripped, if I'm still struggling to read it after p.35 then I leave it. This only goes for fiction though obviously.

I like to take something away from a book I've read, so like them to have some depth, and not too much descriptive writing, as it bores me and I prefer to make my owm mentail image of everything going on.

niceglasses · 17/01/2008 22:42

I don't know if I look for something. There are things I avoid. I avoid chick lit - I hope not cos of snobbishness, tho prob, yes. Just not my type of thing.

For me and for most probably its about something that touches your own life, or makes you think about life in a wider/different way. I think though if it touches you, if you feel it has the potential to 'speak' sorry to you, then I'd give it a go. Just instinct really, and if you make a mistake, then nothing lost really.

southeastastra · 17/01/2008 22:38

or is it brought

southeastastra · 17/01/2008 22:37

i have just bought the private papers of eastern jewels. loved wild swans.

look for things a bit different really. hope it's a good book

Cappuccino · 17/01/2008 22:36

but Pruners all my book group hated one book so much they all took it down the charity shop

I loved it

they were wrong

suiledonn · 17/01/2008 22:34

Haven't had a chance to get back to this thread until now. My very active 20 month old interrupts my mumsnetting and my reading quite a lot. Thanks for all the replies. It is interesting to get other people's opinions on this.
In RL the only other reader I know is my sister and although we like a lot of the same books our tastes do diverge and we rarely agree on anything other than classics these days. For example she loved Notes on a Scandal and I just did not care enough about the characters to enjoy it at all.

Elasticwoman - I love Stephen Fry but I have never read any of his work mainly because I would be disappointed if it didn't live up to my expectations. QI is one of my favourite programmes.

Unquietdad - I notice you mention Americans in your boycott list. Have you read anything by Kent Haruf or Tim Gautreaux? I seem to have a penchant for stories from small town America though so they might not be to everyones taste.

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Elasticwoman · 17/01/2008 22:11

The best novels are deceptively simple and sound as if they almost wrote themselves.

BTW UQD the woman in the vg 2nd hand bookshop near me had never heard of you. I had to explain who you were and heard myself saying "a young writer - younger than me". If you have any extra copies of your novels, you could probably do worse than give them to secondhand bookshops, then if any one reads them they might think ooh I enjoyed that, and buy your next one.

Just a thought.

Elasticwoman · 17/01/2008 22:03

I look for some sort of indication that I will enjoy it. So if I've read other stuff by the same author, I might go for it. Or if I know the author from another sphere, eg Stephen Fry from tv. Unfortunately I've been disappointed with that criterion far more often than I've been charmed. The only thing of Stephen Fry's I like is his autobiography Moab Is My Washpot. But I still love to watch him on tv.

If some one whose judgment I respect recommends it or if I read a favourable review. Sometimes if I read an unfavourable review.

Once I've started with the novel, it has to engage me with believable and interesting characters, a witty or clever or just clear style, an unpredictable plot and original treatment of the subject chosen. Don't often get ALL those boxes ticked.

UnquietDad · 17/01/2008 13:57

Sometimes you have to exercise outrageous prejudice just to navigate a path through the piles of books.

There is a writer called Crysse Morrison, one of whose books looks quite interesting and whose articles I have seen in magazines. But I won't read her book because she spells her name such a daft way.

Pruners · 16/01/2008 16:38

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UnquietDad · 16/01/2008 16:03

A lot of writing workshops do attract older people because of a) timing - daytime courses and b) the fact that some people take up writing when they retire!

Mine are done through WEA, Arts Council/Creative Partnerships and various local initiatives, as well as privately. Always had a good mix of people. I've also had people at all stages of experience, from "totally unpublished" to" had a book out a long time ago" and everything in between.

bookwormmum · 16/01/2008 15:59

I always found most of Susan Hill's work to be rather depressing myself. I think it's the themes she chooses - ghosts and sad lonely people. Interesting blog though - I'll have to read that.

Lauriefairycake · 16/01/2008 15:56

Susan Hill says 'there is not a bad book among them' (the richard and judy list)

Damn, now have even more books to take up my time

chrissnow · 16/01/2008 15:47

I may give that one a go. Always up for a surprise!!
UQD - one day i will enroll on a writing workshop. I went to a writers club once but had to leave as I was the only person a) totally unpublished and b) under the age of 65!!

UnquietDad · 16/01/2008 15:43

chrissnow: No, I'm a writer who also teaches regular workshops and classes to both adults and kids.

laurie: R&J list puts me off but I'm sure there are some good ones on there.

Interesting comment on them by Susan Hill on her writing course blog here

Lauriefairycake · 16/01/2008 15:21

Lol at Unquietdad

I read 3 books a week and I usually pick books up in the shops by reading the review or reading novels by writers I already read.

However i was compiling a Christmas List so picked one people were raving about on Amazon (and it was a Richard and Judy ). I picked it out online without looking at the cover or reading the back flap (obviously) and when it duly arrived for Christmas it looked boring and I didn't pick it up til Monday (and I only picked it up cos I was avoiding cleaning the bathroom ).

I was very wrong, one of the best books I have ever read - stayed up til 5 this morning finishing it. It has opened up whole new areas of interest for me.

"Savage Garden" by Mark Mills - in case anyone wanted to know

chrissnow · 16/01/2008 15:20

UQD, are, you, an, english, teacher. Then?

bookwormmum · 16/01/2008 15:13

I feel a bit nauseous just reading that sentence UQD .