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Is there a current chalet school thread? Anyone fancy it?

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FelicityBeedle · 17/05/2021 18:36

Was introduced to these on MN a few years ago, having a reread. Forgotten the extent to which I want to shake Mary Lou!

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ignatiusjreilly · 24/05/2021 13:08

It's in The Chalet School in the Oberland, when they go to a concert in Interlaken, shortly before the train incident. It doesn't mention anything about her being a widow in my copy, but it's the Armada version so all the juicy bits have been removed.

Is there a current chalet school thread? Anyone fancy it?
FelicityBeedle · 24/05/2021 12:57

I think the widowed opera singer was the first Oberland book with the finishing branch

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Cassie124 · 24/05/2021 12:38

@BinocularVision

Which novel is it where some girls or staff go to a recital where a young singer sings 'Gretchen am Spinnrade' and someone (Bill?) is a bit dubious about such a young girl singing that lied so well (presumably because it's about sexual obsession and regrets?) until someone leans over and reassures her it's all OK, possibly because the singer is widowed or something, so has had 'legitimate' sexual experience? Or am I inventing this?

(Is this why, despite having a number of talented classical singers at the CS, none of them go on to have operatic careers, because about 90% of soprano roles are fallen women, and that's Just Not Nice?') Grin

I remember that part but can't think which book it came from. IIRC, the singer had a tragic backstory about being widowed after a very brief marriage and returning to her stage career.
Arbadacarba · 24/05/2021 12:08

I was always intrigued by the French fingers (though I think Mary-Lou also had them)

Wasn't it Mary Lou who dealt with the curling points on someone's collar by tacking them down with thread? That struck me as a really strange thing to do. As soon as the wearer moves, the dress will sit really oddly because the collar can't move about.

BinocularVision · 24/05/2021 11:33

Which novel is it where some girls or staff go to a recital where a young singer sings 'Gretchen am Spinnrade' and someone (Bill?) is a bit dubious about such a young girl singing that lied so well (presumably because it's about sexual obsession and regrets?) until someone leans over and reassures her it's all OK, possibly because the singer is widowed or something, so has had 'legitimate' sexual experience? Or am I inventing this?

(Is this why, despite having a number of talented classical singers at the CS, none of them go on to have operatic careers, because about 90% of soprano roles are fallen women, and that's Just Not Nice?') Grin

ignatiusjreilly · 24/05/2021 11:24

I love the thought of OhYouBadBadKitten trying to cultivate a deep voice like Miss Annersley's Grin

ignatiusjreilly · 24/05/2021 11:20

Peggy is described as owning "a charming mezzo-soprano" in The Chalet School in the Oberland, but otherwise yes, it's silvery sopranos every time (often with "bell-like clarity").

I love EBD's turns of phrase. It's nice to find fellow chalet school fans! I've never met anyone else in real life who's even heard of them.

BinocularVision · 24/05/2021 10:55

That's actually a good point, @OhYouBadBadKitten -- the Abbess has a beautiful, deep, cello-like speaking voice, but none of the girls famed for their lovely singing voices (Joey, Verity) are anything other than soprano, are they? EBD clearly didn't like the idea of a CS girl with a big, powerful contralto.

Perhaps when Miss Annersley sang, her deep speaking voice magically migrated up an octave? Grin

OhYouBadBadKitten · 24/05/2021 10:48

@ignatiusjreilly

I started re-reading them all again when lockdown started. Some highlights from recent books (I'm currently on Bride Leads) include:
  • somebody coming down with jaundice and being isolated in the san, but too late! It spreads quickly through the school as it's so contagious.
  • Joey giving some money to some local Welsh children who help her by picking up her dropped groceries. They don't speak English but thank her with their "odd guttural noises" (i.e. Welsh).
  • Gwensi Howell refusing to speak to anyone until she hears the sound of singing (might have been Jo) and then she finds herself unable to resist being drawn in because she is Welsh and all Welsh people have music in their blood.
  • anyone French having "French fingers" which make them beautiful embroiderers.
  • constant references to a "creamy Irish brogue" and Miss Annersley's beautiful deep voice, "one of her greatest assets".
I used to try and cultivate a beautiful deep voice on the back of CS, so I was quite surprised when I was put in the alto section of a singing group. Blush Grin
BinocularVision · 24/05/2021 09:03

I was always intrigued by the French fingers (though I think Mary-Lou also had them) which apparently instinctively know how to ‘settle a dress’ so that it looks its best. I mean, other than putting it on, smoothing it down and buttoning or zipping it, how many other ways are there of wearing the average dress?

Unless the gruesome-sounding Swiss-era uniform reboot with the smocking and white revers was one of those ‘wear this simple tie dress in six ways’ ones... Grin

Is there a current chalet school thread? Anyone fancy it?
ignatiusjreilly · 24/05/2021 08:28

I've just remembered another one:

  • all Scottish girls being able to predict the weather. They don't know how they do it; it's just in their blood.
ignatiusjreilly · 23/05/2021 22:21

I started re-reading them all again when lockdown started. Some highlights from recent books (I'm currently on Bride Leads) include:

  • somebody coming down with jaundice and being isolated in the san, but too late! It spreads quickly through the school as it's so contagious.
  • Joey giving some money to some local Welsh children who help her by picking up her dropped groceries. They don't speak English but thank her with their "odd guttural noises" (i.e. Welsh).
  • Gwensi Howell refusing to speak to anyone until she hears the sound of singing (might have been Jo) and then she finds herself unable to resist being drawn in because she is Welsh and all Welsh people have music in their blood.
  • anyone French having "French fingers" which make them beautiful embroiderers.
  • constant references to a "creamy Irish brogue" and Miss Annersley's beautiful deep voice, "one of her greatest assets".
NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 23/05/2021 21:39

@BinocularVision

I agree the ‘put down your burden and collapse’ thing is deeply appealing (though I’d rather Penny Rest than Jack ‘Trigger Happy with the Wife-Sedation, Not So Keen on Contraception’ Maynard), but I confess I would find the ordinary day to day activities of the CS which EBD evidently finds so appealing, very burdensome!

I’d have been an unwholesome combination of Joan Baker, Stacie Benson and Naomi Elton — foul-mouthed, liking a dash of red lipstick and horrified at paper games, sneaking off to read stuff from the ‘restricted’ part of the library and atheist.

Plus I’d have been expelled within about five minutes for pushing the Robin into the Tiernsee/Channel/ any body of water in the vicinity of Plas Howell. Surely someone has written fan fic in which that was Gertrud Becker’s secret mission?

Oh, but there's hope for you yet! Quick bout of crying in Miss Annersley's study and you'll be a real Chalet School girl in no time. Wink
Lovelanguedoc · 23/05/2021 21:30

Another huge fan of Antonia Forest here. I went to a similar, though far less posh, version of Kingscote, where the mistresses were all the same strict, distant and slightly scary (some very scary indeed) copies of the Kingscote staff. None of them was married (I am late sixties) as they were all relics of the time when a woman had to choose between a teaching career and a husband.
Miss Forest's characterisation is impeccable, to the extent that I'm sure I 'know' each of the Marlows (with the possible exception of Peter) as well, or better than I know my own family.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 23/05/2021 21:17

I definitely have to reread my CS, I'd forgotten half this stuff and I did a bit for GBB years ago.

burnoutbabe · 23/05/2021 21:14

I am up to shocks/exploits in my re-read. Not sure I have done a complete re-read before but they are easy reads on my kindle on tubes.

JassyRadlett · 23/05/2021 21:13

The Anne books (and all LM Montgomery) are wonderful for that too, Felicity, though from a Canadian perspective.

I’ve been reading them with 9yo DS and we’ve had some really wonderful conversations as a result.

FelicityBeedle · 23/05/2021 21:10

I think it is the social history I love, whenever I’m reading them my google history is full of terms from them. I spent a happy hour reading about invalid diets the other day! I love Laura Ingalls Wilder’s prairie books for the same reason. Any other books anyone can recommend full of social history? I do read adult novels too!

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Aroundtheworldin80moves · 23/05/2021 20:58

We were actually skiing!
It's a beautiful part of the world.

BinocularVision · 23/05/2021 20:58

I agree the ‘put down your burden and collapse’ thing is deeply appealing (though I’d rather Penny Rest than Jack ‘Trigger Happy with the Wife-Sedation, Not So Keen on Contraception’ Maynard), but I confess I would find the ordinary day to day activities of the CS which EBD evidently finds so appealing, very burdensome!

I’d have been an unwholesome combination of Joan Baker, Stacie Benson and Naomi Elton — foul-mouthed, liking a dash of red lipstick and horrified at paper games, sneaking off to read stuff from the ‘restricted’ part of the library and atheist.

Plus I’d have been expelled within about five minutes for pushing the Robin into the Tiernsee/Channel/ any body of water in the vicinity of Plas Howell. Surely someone has written fan fic in which that was Gertrud Becker’s secret mission?

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 23/05/2021 20:53

@Aroundtheworldin80moves

I've had several holidays at Stubai Glacier. I was most amazed to see there was a Post Hotel in Fulmpes.

Plus.. seeing the Chalets brought the books to life

Oh, I so want to go! Am putting it off a bit as think it'd probably be a no-kids holiday for me and that feels like a distant prospect just now, due to afore-mentioned lack of faithful Anna Grin

I've been to Achensee Tiernsee a couple of times which was amazing.

SpringBluebellWoods · 23/05/2021 20:34

The wish fulfilment of someone just looking after you is what makes them comfort reading for me.

Weirdly, I love the journey to Europe one - there’s something about it that just works, possibly the sense of a a slice of women’s social history.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 23/05/2021 20:25

I've had several holidays at Stubai Glacier. I was most amazed to see there was a Post Hotel in Fulmpes.

Plus.. seeing the Chalets brought the books to life

KevinTheGoat · 23/05/2021 20:18

The Tyrolean Christmas is one of my favourite scenes in the early books. It's pure comfort reading.

JassyRadlett · 23/05/2021 20:00

Basically, the European Lower Orders are different, all picturesque, devout and deferential -- is it Marie Pfeiffen who is thrilled to get a framed photo of the school for a wedding present?

I mean obviously I was gutted not to get a framed picture of my office from my team when I got married.

So glad this thread is here. You are my people. JUSTICE FOR DAISY.