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Adam Kay's This is Going to Hurt

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musicalfrog · 13/05/2021 22:00

I haven't even finished the book yet but I'm getting more and more annoyed with him the further in I go. I didn't mind him initially but then the more he progresses in his career the more insufferable he gets!

Is he really such an arrogant *** or is he just writing for laughs? Whichever, I'm glad he's not a practicing doctor now, but unfortunately I recognise his attitude in a couple of doctors I had the misfortune to encounter during my first birth experience.

Just wondering if anyone else had the same reaction as me? I've not seen him on TV or anything, the book is all I have to go on.

Oh, and Mumsnet gets a mention a few chapters in!

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Cattenberg · 17/05/2021 17:47

Babdoc, I’m not excusing him, but I was shocked by how badly junior doctors were treated by the NHS, and how little support there was for them after a traumatic event.

I’m still amazed that he admitted to this:

www.theguardian.com/books/2017/dec/10/adam-kay-this-is-going-to-hurt-interview-junior-doctor

On another occasion he deals with a difficult and racist patient undergoing surgery by sewing her up after the operation in such a way as to disfigure her dolphin tattoo. Did that really happen?

“I don’t want to talk about that one because that’s one I wasn’t meant to put in the book,” he says, adding, “but that obviously did happen.”

FadedRed · 17/05/2021 17:03

Horrible book written by a grade A arsehole.

Babdoc · 17/05/2021 16:48

Cattenberg, we all worked horrendous hours of overtime and had almost no life outside the hospital - my generation of doctors had it even worse than Kay’s lot. But it didn’t turn us all into misogynistic arrogant shits, or excuse those few who were.

Cattenberg · 17/05/2021 12:57

I enjoyed the book as I found some parts really funny. I thought the author’s tendency to end an anecdote with something rude or flippant was just an attempt to keep it (mostly) lighthearted.

And he did seem to care about many of his patients, working countless hours of unpaid overtime. I felt very angry on his behalf that he had to sacrifice his relationship, major family events and a holiday of a lifetime to his job.

I thought that a few parts reflected badly on him though, the dolphin tattoo incident and his dislike of the uro-gyno (sp?) clinic and using phrases such as “greyer than your nan’s vagina”.

I’m shocked by those song lyrics, there’s no defending those. Awful.

ThePawtriarchy · 15/05/2021 23:14

Wow, he really does hate women.

Cocolapew · 15/05/2021 21:50

God what a repulsive man.

MsOgyny · 15/05/2021 21:42

www.metrolyrics.com/adam-kay-suman-biswas-lyrics.html

If anyone is still doubting whether he has crossed the line, can I suggest you look at these lyrics to some of his other songs too. "Menstrual rag" and "northern birds" being 2 of the first I looked at that showcase the hatred loud and clear.

Gosh I hate him even more now than I did when I read the book.

ThePawtriarchy · 15/05/2021 15:59

I looked for the lyrics and got as far as The Black and White Menstrual Show 🤦‍♀️

Babdoc · 15/05/2021 15:46

MissyB1, he performed in a comedy duo, playing keyboard and singing. Their idea of humour included a version of the song “Yellow”, about a patient jaundiced with terminal cancer. It included lines such as “You’re yellow, like the desert round Damascus is
You’re yellow ‘cause your liver has metastases..”
I think they originally performed to fellow doctors, but then took their act to mainstream venues including the Edinburgh Fringe. The song mocking Downs babies was a low even for them - “your baby’s a bit of a Mong” being part of the vile lyrics.
As a doctor myself I can tolerate a fair bit of black humour, but Kay was just way out of line. A shame, because some of their other songs were genuinely hilarious.

maryjosephandtheweedonkey · 15/05/2021 14:40

@choosername1234

I think it must be a work of (partial) fiction. I've worked in A&E for almost 20 years and have only a small handful of "stories", certainly not enough to fill a book.
I think it’s acknowledged that it’s not entirely non-fiction. It’s been pointed out that some of the diary entries are actually really old jokes and anecdotes that have been around for years.

So I think some of the stories do need to be taken with a pinch of salt and awareness they’ve been written for a book to be ‘funny’ and entertaining.

One of the extracts that annoyed me was the one with a woman who was suffering with pelvic pain and felt she wasn’t being listened to. There’s a long history of women not being listened to or taken seriously by drs and needlessly suffering, particularly with gynaecological issues. So I found it interesting that he didn’t touch upon this but rather showed a complete stereotype of the ‘hysterical woman’ who had (in his opinion) nothing wrong with her and threw a bin at him whilst shouting ‘I know my own body!’ (A phrase often used when you hear real-life women who have genuinely let down by drs). I thought it was interesting how he took the scenario and neatly switched it around to make the male doctor the victim.

daisyjgrey · 15/05/2021 14:37

@Snakeprint

I loved it, so funny and honest!

If you think that it's honest, then you should be questioning why you're so accepting of his actions as being "honest". You can be honest about doing terrible things, honesty is not a guarantee of anything good.

MissyB1 · 15/05/2021 14:36

It’s a good thing he left medicine, he was clearly never going to cut the mustard. To busy trying to be mr funny/cool.

That song is appalling but also bizarre, as in why the fuck would he have written it???

Cocolapew · 15/05/2021 14:19

Those lyrics! For fucks sake that 'song' is horrendous Angry

RedDogsBeg · 15/05/2021 13:50

@Snakeprint

I loved it, so funny and honest!
Funny - Misogyny, sexism and sneering contempt for your patients is hilarious.

Honest - a snapshot of just how some men view women, chilling.

The only good thing to come out of his book is that he quit medicine and is no longer in a position to inflict his misogyny and contempt on female patients.

Aspiringmatriarch · 15/05/2021 13:17

God, I disliked him before but having read those lyrics... he is utterly vile. AngrySad

Snakeprint · 15/05/2021 13:15

I loved it, so funny and honest!

Pinchoftums · 15/05/2021 13:12

I am entirely...

Pinchoftums · 15/05/2021 13:11

Fucking hell that song is horrific. www.lyricsreg.com/lyrics/amateur+transplants/your+baby/

I quite liked the book but after reading these I. Entirely convinced he is an utter cunt.

daisyjgrey · 15/05/2021 11:11

@EmphaticPeriod I wanted to watch bodies but I discounted it on the basis that having PTSD would probably make it decidedly less enjoyable. Although I do happily mainline Grey's Anatomy...🤷🏻‍♀️

EmphaticPeriod · 15/05/2021 09:53

I loved Jed Mercurio's Bodies (fiction but he was a doctor). Didn't mind TIGTH and I had 2 ventouse births and a lot of PTSD (ime you have good medics and poor ones - two I find it hard to forgive were women).
I did wonder why Adam changed his boyfriend to a girlfriend in this though - not sure why he is closeted in what purports to be based on real life.

MsOgyny · 15/05/2021 09:07

Good god. I just looked up the lyrics to that song you mentioned, Babdoc. That is HORRIFIC. What an absolutely vile person he is.

Babdoc · 15/05/2021 09:01

If any of you were in any doubt about Kay’s lack of humanity, you have only to look at the lyrics of some of his songs when he was half of the comic act “Amateur Transplants”.
In particular, his version of “My baby just cares for me” - entitled “Your baby has trisomy”, in which he mocks the features of Down’s syndrome.
As a retired doctor, I understand the need for humour in our job, but Kay crosses the boundary.

Roboticcarrot · 14/05/2021 23:41

I hated it as well. Yes many professions use dark humour to get through the hard times, but with colleagues and not writing a book about it. The contempt he showed for some of the women in his care was vile, and the way he spoke about some of the stuff actually made me feel grim.

musicalfrog · 14/05/2021 23:34

Thank you I'm glad it's not just me!

My first alarm bell actually came quite late - when he downplayed that bladder injury he caused by comparing it to a bus driver not saying hello or a waiter forgetting a side order. Then one page later blaming a woman for a failure to progress because she dared to have a birth plan. I mean it's so disgusting I can't take him seriously. But the underlying message seems to be that it's OK to take the piss out of vulnerable women, even if you're a medical professional.

What a grade A arsehole. I hope the book goes out of print.

Still haven't finished it so expecting to feel angry for a little while longer.

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ThreeKneeRepeater · 14/05/2021 08:16

Nasty book. So disrespectful and misogynistic. I was sorry I read it and binned it immediately. It still makes me cross, and I’m glad he left the profession and won’t have to be near any ‘old nannas and their soggy pelvic floors’.