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Adam Kay's This is Going to Hurt

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musicalfrog · 13/05/2021 22:00

I haven't even finished the book yet but I'm getting more and more annoyed with him the further in I go. I didn't mind him initially but then the more he progresses in his career the more insufferable he gets!

Is he really such an arrogant *** or is he just writing for laughs? Whichever, I'm glad he's not a practicing doctor now, but unfortunately I recognise his attitude in a couple of doctors I had the misfortune to encounter during my first birth experience.

Just wondering if anyone else had the same reaction as me? I've not seen him on TV or anything, the book is all I have to go on.

Oh, and Mumsnet gets a mention a few chapters in!

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nocoolnamesleft · 13/11/2021 00:16

Mixed feelings. Some of it is very much the black humour of survival in a broken system where there is fuck all support for traumatic events. But some of it does feel sneeringly misogynistic. Bit like the songs: some are genius works of black humour, and others step way over the line. And he seems to have little concept of which are which. And I'm damn sure there's misogyny in O&G, having tried to support female consultant colleagues in that department.

Ellmau · 07/11/2021 22:42

@Gwenhwyfar

" I might see if the library has a copy so I don’t have him make a profit from me."

I think authors get a very, very small amount of royalties from libraries don't they? Maybe doesn't depend how many times the book is borrowed though...

Yes, it's a bit complicated though.

Buy it from a charity or other second hand shop?

Gwenhwyfar · 07/11/2021 18:19

" I might see if the library has a copy so I don’t have him make a profit from me."

I think authors get a very, very small amount of royalties from libraries don't they? Maybe doesn't depend how many times the book is borrowed though...

Cattenberg · 29/05/2021 12:52

@maryjosephandtheweedonkey

This book was what introduced my desire never to see a male gynaecologist outside of an emergency. Well preferably not in an emergency either, to be honest.

Same here

The male consultant gynaecologist who treated me was excellent. I’ve had several unpleasant experiences with speculums, yet the time he treated me was the one time it was painless.

Whereas some of the nurses and midwives I’ve encountered seem to think that one size fits all. No, it bloody doesn’t!

KarensChoppyGob · 27/05/2021 18:23

@SOLINVICTUS

Was just looking at his FB page. His book on anatomy for kids is out in paperback today (Run! (For the hills)) Sounds like the "fucking twat" language has been replaced by bogies and poo. Yawn He doesn't take kindly to negative reviews I notice. Copies them onto his FB page and then offers to show the writer where the clitoris is. Foul foul man.
What a strange man.
maryjosephandtheweedonkey · 27/05/2021 17:27

This book was what introduced my desire never to see a male gynaecologist outside of an emergency. Well preferably not in an emergency either, to be honest.

Same here

Fishandhips · 27/05/2021 14:26

Now

Fishandhips · 27/05/2021 14:26

@SOLINVICTUS

Was just looking at his FB page. His book on anatomy for kids is out in paperback today (Run! (For the hills)) Sounds like the "fucking twat" language has been replaced by bogies and poo. Yawn He doesn't take kindly to negative reviews I notice. Copies them onto his FB page and then offers to show the writer where the clitoris is. Foul foul man.
Really odd comments on there, someone's said 'I'm a midwife, I know always refer to forceps as salad tongs'- great.
SOLINVICTUS · 27/05/2021 13:56

Was just looking at his FB page. His book on anatomy for kids is out in paperback today (Run! (For the hills)) Sounds like the "fucking twat" language has been replaced by bogies and poo. Yawn
He doesn't take kindly to negative reviews I notice. Copies them onto his FB page and then offers to show the writer where the clitoris is.
Foul foul man.

CakesOfVersailles · 27/05/2021 13:49

I had enjoyed a few of the Amateur Transplants songs (not the ones mentioned here!) and recognising his name bought the book.

I expected it to be a funny but dark critique of the NHS as an organisation as well as a personal memoir.

In the end, although I saw a lot that should be changed about the NHS, I mostly came away with a very low opinion of the writer and relief that he had left the profession. The tattoo incident in particular disgusted me - this was not gallows humour, it was heavy handed hinting that he has deliberately done sub-par work on a patient as revenge.

This book was what introduced my desire never to see a male gynaecologist outside of an emergency. Well preferably not in an emergency either, to be honest.

Nellle · 27/05/2021 13:30

Awful misogyny.

Made me want to give birth as far away from doctors as possible.

rooarsome · 27/05/2021 09:36

I couldn't stand it. I found the tone very unpleasant and his attitude towards patients and fellow HCPs was very condescending.

SOLINVICTUS · 27/05/2021 09:25

I do get the "black humour" thing with certain professions, absolutely.
But when you come away from reading something that only makes you glad to have never experienced a person like this yourself, as a female patient, but leaves you wondering if all HCPs feel the same about their patients, and if they do, what a sad and shameful indictment of their profession that is, and more than anything else to think about the elderly, and possibly frightened women who have been at the mercy of this man, not realising how he was going to enjoy mocking them afterwards- then something has gone way way beyond "black humour".
Having now seen the stuff about the songs- this man needs to be "cancelled" as soon as possible.

Rigamorph · 27/05/2021 09:12

I am not a medic but have some semi-medical training, and agree that this book reflected the harsh nature of reality. You need a dark twisted sense of humour to handle life and death matters every day. I would have to seriously water down my autobiographical experiences to make them palatable for the general public!
I do think he despairs of human nature sometimes, as do I in my job, it's just that because he works in gynae most of the humans he encounters are women, not that he is misogynistic per se. He was just as disparaging about the men (guy who sustained penis injuries on a night out for example...)

TheWindOnTheMoon · 27/05/2021 08:54

I thought Joanna Cannon's Breaking and Mending memoir of her time as a junior doctor was much better, far more realistic and honest.

lavenderandwisteria · 27/05/2021 07:16

I think I’m going to have to read this, but it sounds revolting. I might see if the library has a copy so I don’t have him make a profit from me.

It always used to be the case that women who were sex workers would use a sponge when on their periods (I used to do some voluntary work) - has he considered how desperate she must have been? Sigh.

I’m not sure from what’s been said here that it is funny. I’ve noticed with some comedians and even some people their ‘humour’ is to be as shocking and daring as possible but that in itself isn’t funny.

FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 27/05/2021 07:11

When I worked for the NHS doctors, nurses and other HCPs were pushed to breaking point pretty much every day. We all managed to not be revolting sexists sneering and laughing at patients though.

Fishandhips · 27/05/2021 06:46

i believe, with the situations doctors deal with they do have to find sense of humour and cynicism to stay sane

Well yes, but they don't need to publish a book on it, it's different to talk amongst colleagues to help deal with a shift or whatever, it's quite another to write a book, making £££ off writing about women in the way he did.

ThePawtriarchy · 27/05/2021 01:29

I wonder what the equivalent for men’s health is.

PollyPepper · 26/05/2021 21:21

@KarensChoppyBob

What a male specimen eh? They're normally the type to create lyrics like that. Those Adonises.

I pretty much read that book in one afternoon while fairly inebriated on holiday and though there was some humour I remember cringing more than once e.g. the sponge/vagina thing. Vile.

Hahaha! Glass houses, stones springs to mind.
SOLINVICTUS · 26/05/2021 19:01

If you think This Is Going to Hurt was full of misogyny, wait till you try Twas the Nightshift Before Christmas.
He's a complete arse. His hatred for women shines through on every page. When he isn't "fucking this" and "fucking that" he's "cocks, dicks, tits and shits" because he somehow, despite (presumably) not being 14, thinks by using those words he's hilarious.
His most despicable anecdote, he saves for his geriatric patients though.
As I said in my Goodreads review about him, "I'd say don't give up the day job, but that ship's already sailed, and at least women can choose now to cross the street if they see you coming rather than be subjected to your fnar-fnaring behind their backs.
Nasty nasty man.

BusyEvenForBee · 26/05/2021 18:37

Enjoyed the book! Terrific sense of humour. And he honestly laid it bare what is it like to be a junior doctor and how really overworked and bureaucratic NHS system is.

I believe, with the situations doctors deal with they do have to find sense of humour and cynicism to stay sane.

MournfulTromboneNoise · 26/05/2021 18:24

@ThePawtriarchy

Just to add - he made it clear that they call Obstetrics Twats and Brats in medical school - and like I said, I get the dark humour but his attitude added the misogyny to go along with it.
Runts and cunts in NE England.

He's made a lot of money out of other people's pain and tragedy.

FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 26/05/2021 18:22

Re this lyrics:

Northern birds
Are lazy, ugly wh*s who
Smell of burgers
So don't have too much to drink
Or you might f** one
And end up getting AIDS

Nothing at all
When we went back to mine I was up for a shag
In the bedroom I realise you're a dumpy old slag
Your pubes reach your navel and they cover your thighs
Didn't know they made arses that size

I have to say, and have said for a long time that there does seem to be a misogynistic side to many gay men - they are very keen to express how much women's bodies disgust them. If it's not misogyny, why else does a gay man sing songs about being repulsed by sexual experiences with women?

FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 26/05/2021 18:19

*believe not w leige Confused