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'Little Dorrit' readalong

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Piggywaspushed · 07/04/2021 12:36

Hello and welcome to our next proposed Dickensalong after the success of our previous readalongs!

On our previous thread I suggested our first month as commencing in April and convening on June 1st to discuss the first instalment : gives everyone time to get copies and get settled down.

Everyone is welcome! We always start with about 10 people and end up with about 5...

Instalments I have chosen follow Dickens' shorter 19 instalments (which were all exactly the same number of pages originally - that must have taken considerable planning and editing!) but come in pairs or trios:-
The novel comprises only two Books, which forces a break at a particular point, too.

May 2021 - Book One , Chapters 1-11
June - Chapters 12-18
July - Chapters 19-25
August - Chapters 26- 36
September - Book Two Chapters 1-11
October - Chapters 12-18
November - Chapters 19-26
December - Chapters 27 - 34

So finished by 2022. I think that suits reading speed of most.

Happy Reading!

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IsFuzzyBeagMise · 01/08/2021 17:16

I read these chapters a while ago, so I need to reread them again to get up to speed. Here are a few random thoughts, as I go through a chapter at a time.

Chapter 18. I am finding William Dorrit very annoying, so much so, that I'm making sarcastic comments in the margins of my book. His superior attitude to his brother Frederick is irritating. He is incredibly condescending towards him, and feels superior to him. Frederick probably has a harder life in comparison to William as William's every need is taken care of; he is completely cosetted by Amy.

William feels slighted over Mr Chivery senior's lack of respect towards him, due to Amy's rejection of young John's advances and he goes into a tirade of self-pity and Amy wears herself out trying to mollify his hurt feelings, even staying up all night by his bedside and soothing him. (Insert sarcastic comment here!)

Once he has wallowed enough in self-pity, he does spare Amy a thought and acknowledges her hard life inside the prison... barely. But it's still all about himself.

I like this description which ends the chapter; 'The spikes had never looked so sharp and cruel, nor the bars so heavy, nor the prison space so gloomy and contracted. She thought of the sunrise on rolling rivers, of the sunrise on wide seas, of the sunrise on rich landscapes, on the sunrise on great forests, where the birds were waking and the trees were rustling; and she looked down into the living grave in which the sun had risen, with her father in it, three-and-twenty years...'

This reflects how enclosed and stifled her life is in this confined, dark place. Poor Amy!

rc22 · 01/08/2021 13:33

I've managed to finish July's chapters today. Definitely confusing and I've had to use Shmoop but I'm enjoying the book.

Piggywaspushed · 01/08/2021 07:51

I definitely had to Shmoop my chapters this month! So many chapters with so many characters up to so much as yet unclear stuff! What Is Pancks? Who is Pancks? Why is Pancks? Who were all those people going to Dunstable and all over, and why Chivery? Obviously that chapter was particularly about the idea of not judging people by outward appearances : Casby seeming affable but being dreadful and Pancks possibly a good guy, despite being a debt collector. And Flora may be aggravating but she was kind to Little Dorritt, although is potentially using her?

I find Dickens ultra confusing when he doesn't name characters but calls them eg 'the Patriarch'. I have to keep checking who that is! I can spot Casby by his idiolect at least but I still am never sure who is related to whom in this novel of marriages and remarriages. Shmoop refers to LD as a book full of horrible, horrible people.

I loved the bit about the English and their attitude to foreigners and was particularly amused by Dickens' rendering of how they talk to foreign people! E ope you leg well soon! Grin

This was wryly apt even for today:

in the first place , they were vaguely persuaded every foreigner had a knife about him ; in the second they held it to be a sound constitutional national axion that he ought to go home to his own country. They never thought of enquiring how many of their own countrymen would be returned upon their hands from divers parts of the world

Farage and Yaxley-Lennon/Robinson would certainly make great Dickens villains...

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ChessieFL · 01/08/2021 05:56

I still have two chapters to read so I will be back later today when I’ve done that!

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2021 20:23

Me too!!

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IsFuzzyBeagMise · 31/07/2021 08:26

Place-marking for the next installment!

nowanearlyNicemum · 29/07/2021 17:52

I've just finished June's chapters - yes, I know it's nearly the end of July!! Nothing to add to your general chat. I feel a bit confused about several of the elements and am not sure how it will all come together. But there's still plenty of time for that, right?

StColumbofNavron · 07/07/2021 12:58

Oh I’ve had this on my shelf for a very, very long time.

LadybirdDaphne · 07/07/2021 11:19

I can’t get away from the Victorian Age at the moment and am reading The French Lieutenant’s Woman before I get back to Dorrit. It’s interesting that John Fowles has picked up on the preference for the childlike woman; Charles Smithson thinks of his conventional fiancé Ernestina as being like a child Envy (not envy). If he marries her I’m going to throw the book across the room - although I am aware it’s a pick your own ending sort of book so hopefully this can be avoided.

IsFuzzyBeagMise · 06/07/2021 16:54

There's an index of characters at the front of my edition; it's very useful!

BadSpellaSpellaSpella · 06/07/2021 16:49

I wrote down the main characters and have to admit it's made a difference reading the book

Piggywaspushed · 06/07/2021 16:01

yup 19-25!

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StColumbofNavron · 06/07/2021 15:50

I’m really enjoying following and hope I’ve caught up by the next chat. I’ve finished two other books and not replaced them so hopefully will be ready.

ChessieFL · 06/07/2021 15:47

Just checking - is it chapters 19-25 for July?

IsFuzzyBeagMise · 06/07/2021 11:46

Yes, I agree, Piggy. They probably did marry young out of necessity. It's sad that Little Dorrit's slight stature and childlike appearance is due to malnourishment.

Piggywaspushed · 06/07/2021 07:02

But men did marry very young women in Victorian times , to be fair, so it wasn't that odd to them. David is quite young himself in DC but still refers to whatsherface as a 'little child'. I read something on this infantilisation somewhere recently, but can't for the life of me remember where!

We see this from a different viewpoint in Bleak House where we see the dependence of a young woman on a much older man , not as creepy but a s a possible economic necessity for survival.

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DesdamonasHandkerchief · 05/07/2021 22:18

I'm thinking Dickens was the Woody Allen of his time, all this obsession with young girls that is acted out in his art, with the elderly protagonist managing to bag a nubile young thing. (See 'Manhattan' where Allen's 42 year old is dating a 17 year old) I agree the obsession with Little Dorrit's tiny stature and child like demeanour is a bit creepy.
I do rather like the mild mannered Arthur though (maybe because in my minds eye he's Matthew McFadden as in the adaptation) and I love Flora and her terrible delusions.

Piggywaspushed · 05/07/2021 21:14

Yes, me too. Love Katie.

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yesbutnobut · 05/07/2021 20:58

Piggy I don't think Katie has done another read along. She may have mentioned LD in passing. When I messaged Katie about Bleak House (to see if she was going to finish her commentary) she said she wouldn't do another one as it was just too time-consuming !! Which is a shame as I really enjoy her observations and enthusiasm. She brought Bleak House and,, especially, OMF alive for me.

Piggywaspushed · 05/07/2021 19:20

I haven't looked up Katie to see if she does a Little Dorrit. Will have a look.

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yesbutnobut · 05/07/2021 18:58

Having followed Katie 'Books and Things' for her readalongs of Bleak House and Our Mutual Friend, I must say I'm missing having someone to explain it all to me and get me enthused about certain characters as well go along! One thing I've come to realise is just what slow burners Dickens' books are, so I'm going with the flow and letting him sow the seeds of the characters and the story. Definitely seems to be a lot of social commentary in Little Dorrit - the prison, Tattycoram's back story, etc. I find Flora hilarious! So Arthur has ruled out Flora and Pet - does this mean he's destined to fall in love with Little Dorrit? Given how she's described as child like (even the word 'Little' is a bit jarring) and how she has made herself a slave to her father and family, so far I don't think that's a particularly appealing prospect. Also loving Affery Flintwich and looking forward to finding out what her 'dreams' are all about.

Piggywaspushed · 02/07/2021 20:14

Hhahahaha! God, yes.

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IsFuzzyBeagMise · 02/07/2021 20:12

Grin I couldn't imagine a more irritating person to be confined with. Oh wait, I can. Flora.

Piggywaspushed · 02/07/2021 19:49

I forgot my latest Dickens sees into the future quotation:

'But Lord bless me!' cried Mr Meagles, rubbing his hands with a relish, 'it was an uncommonly pleasant thing being in quarantine, wasn't it? Do you know, I often wished myself back again! We were a capital party!'

Not sure what the MN dreaded coronavirus board would make of Mr Meagles!!

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IsFuzzyBeagMise · 02/07/2021 14:19

@BadSpellaSpellaSpella

.'The part where she walked around with Maggy at night was well written. I really felt for them.'

That's been my favourite part so far

Aw, yes, me too.