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Our Mutual Friend Readalong

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Piggywaspushed · 04/08/2020 16:07

As discussed on the previous Davis Copperfield Readalong, I hope some of us are eager to start Our Mutual Friend!

This is quite a complex one to break up. As usual, Dickens published in 19 monthly instalments but this one has 4 'Books' .

It is split up as follows:

BOOK THE FIRST: THE CUP AND THE LIP
I – May 1864 (chapters 1–4);
II – June 1864 (chapters 5–7);
III – July 1864 (chapters 8–10);
IV – August 1864 (chapters 11–13);
V – September 1864 (chapters 14–17).
BOOK THE SECOND: BIRDS OF A FEATHER
VI – October 1864 (chapters 1–3);
VII – November 1864 (chapters 4–6);
VIII – December 1864 (chapters 7–10);
IX – January 1865 (chapters 11–13);
X – February 1865 (chapters 14–16).
BOOK THE THIRD: A LONG LANE
XI – March 1865 (chapters 1–4);
XII – April 1865 (chapters 5–7);
XIII – May 1865 (chapters 8–10);
XIV – June 1865 (chapters 11–14);
XV – July 1865 (chapters 15–17).
BOOK THE FOURTH: A TURNING
XVI – August 1865 (chapters 1–4);
XVII – September 1865 (chapters 5–7);
XVIII – October 1865 (chapters 8–11);
XIX-XX – November 1865 [chapters 12–17 (Chapter the Last)].

4 instalments is feasible but might be too much for those of us working/ reading other books/child or DP wrangling/ insert other reason.

Therefore, I would suggest 8 instalments, splitting each book in two somehow?

That would take us to March 2021 and then we can pretend 2020 never existed.

Up for it? Thoughts?

Looking forward to it! All usual suspects and newcomers welcome.

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Piggywaspushed · 02/11/2020 13:06

Yes to that.

Also I found DC very vivid, almost cinematic. This feels more internalised and intellectual. It still has caricatures but not quite the same. Like CD had reached a more 'mature' stage?

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ChessieFL · 02/11/2020 12:40

I think it’s partly because I can’t link what I’m reading with the plot. With DC I could read about an event and see how it fitted in with his life whereas with this I read about an event but I don’t know who the people are or how it fits in with anything else so it doesn’t stick in my brain.

Piggywaspushed · 02/11/2020 09:47

I do find, more than DC, though that it washes over me.I am not rushing as such. But I am probably skimming!

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ChessieFL · 01/11/2020 20:01

You’re all reading much more carefully than me, I missed some of that! I did have to rush this month’s chapters though so I wasn’t reading as thoroughly as I should.

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2020 19:32

You read so much more carefully than me but, yes, the leering over Lizzie is ominous. Will Rokesmith (or whoever he is... duh duh duh) or someone gallant save her?

Fledgeby is vile.

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InMyOwnParticularIdiom · 01/11/2020 19:28

I'm still enjoying it a lot and find it hard to stop at the end of the month's chapters. It's grittier than I was expecting - it's clear that Lizzie's position is precarious and she's one step away from becoming a fallen woman. When Lightwood asks Wrayburn what his intentions are towards her, one of the options he suggests is to seduce and abandon her - and nasty Fledgeby asks her what she's 'selling' when he meets her on the shop roof.

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2020 17:41

It was brutal. Dickens did like his dead child scenes!

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Indigosalt · 01/11/2020 15:57

Checking in Smile

I feel like it's rambling all over the place and I have no idea whatsoever where it's going, but I'm actually enjoying it. I'm interested in the Lizzie/Wrayburn/teacher plot - can't make my mind up what Wrayburn is up to but I'm intrigued to find out.

Really enjoyed reading about Bella's day out with her Dad in Greenwich. Is she a practical realist or a heartless gold digger? I can't decide, but Dickens leaves us in no doubt at all that being poor is rubbish in OMF - look at what happens to poor little Johnny!

Did anyone else find the way Johnny's death was presented as rather unfeeling? He'd barely given his toys away to the child in the bed next to him before the Boffin's are on the search for a new orphan to adopt. Brutal.

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2020 13:50

No worries terpsichore.

Yes, Lizzie will get embroiled. The school master is a bit Uriah Heepish perhaps?

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BadSpellaSpellaSpella · 01/11/2020 13:46

I too am so glad it's not just me! Ive read loads of Dickens and I've never had a problem following the plot before Confused

Im assuming Lizzie will be in a love triangle with thre school master and the lawyer guy?

Terpsichore · 01/11/2020 13:38

Sorry that I won’t be joining in this time, Piggy, I haven’t been able to read the chapters. I hope to catch up for the next meeting.

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2020 08:19

Katie of Books and Things refused to promote David Copperfield up her top 10/ 5 (I can't quite recall) because of her love for OMF. I am not watching her video because spoilers but am intrigued to know what she says. Bet she loves the Boffins.

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FortunaMajor · 01/11/2020 07:49

I am also feeling quite lost with so many characters and no obvious direction. I'm glad it's not just me. I keep checking in with a study guide but that isn't making things any clearer at this stage either.

ChessieFL · 01/11/2020 07:25

Yes I’m not really sure yet who we’re meant to like or not like! We are also a long way into the book without the main plot becoming apparent - we’re more than a third of the way through and I assumed by now I would have some idea of the plot!!

Other Dickens books are also sprawling but at least they have a plot you can follow.

I’m also losing track of all the characters and who is related/connected to who.

I will be sticking with this one but not sure it’s one I’ll reread - although it could end up being one of those books where there’s a big reveal where everything ties together and then I may want to reread it knowing what all the links are.

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2020 07:16

Next month takes us to the end of Book Two so I am hoping there will be a cliffhanger/plot development of some kind?!

Are we supposed to like Bella Wilfer? I quite like her at some points and the she says something like 'I must marry someone rich' and I go off her.

Her dreadful acqusitive mother seems very Austen to me.

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ChessieFL · 01/11/2020 07:13

I still have no idea what’s going on. It’s so bitty - lots of different characters and their stories with no link yet. I didn’t really enjoy this month’s chapters - no particularly funny chapters and nothing that really seems to be moving the story on.

I also found several places where Dickens repeated himself in the following sentence - I kept thinking I was rereading the first sentence but no. I haven’t really noticed this before. It’s as if he had to reach a certain number of words and couldn’t think of anything else to say so just repeated the previous sentence with a few minor changes.

I did like the idea of the ‘eminently aristocratic family cheese’ at the beginning of chapter 8!

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2020 06:54

Morning!

I am up silly early so kicking us off.

I'll be honest, I have chapters I like and chapters where I fall asleep reading them (no, really...) and am none the wiser!

It is the usual Dickens problem of him expecting us to remember huge numbers of characters and names : were Victorians just better than us at this??

I do enjoy the nasty people but feel like the plot still hadn't really kicked in.

The best bit is those horrific Lammles. I thought the chapter with them setting up whichever young girl that was with Fledgeby (?) was very Dangerous Liaisons. This being later Dickens it feels quite modern and sexy, doesn't it?

It took me ages to spot that Dickens does that swapping between past and present tense thing that he does in Bleak House.

Is anyone else still with me and along for the ride? Smile

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Piggywaspushed · 07/10/2020 20:23

Phwoarrrr

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ChessieFL · 07/10/2020 20:22

I sat opposite Paul McGann on a train last year. He was indeed very handsome.

Piggywaspushed · 07/10/2020 20:12

I see it's Paul McGann now.

But he is normally so dishy!!

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DesdamonasHandkerchief · 07/10/2020 19:42

McGann is playing Eugene Wrayburn Hmm

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 07/10/2020 19:36

Yes that Keeley Hawes and Paul McGann both not looking their best IMHO! Not sure how they've managed to make such attractive people so scruffy/drippy. I'm assuming they're playing Lizzie/Rokesmith (maybe Headstone) Also in the cast Anna Friel (Bella?), Steven Mackintosh, (maybe he's Rokesmith) Peter Vaughan, Pam Ferris, David Morrissey (rubs thighs in unsavoury Vic Reeves style) Timothy Spall and Kenneth Cranham.
Really looking forward to it! I'm off to check IMDB to check who's who!

ChessieFL · 07/10/2020 16:25

Is it a McGann brother?

Piggywaspushed · 07/10/2020 15:25

Is that Keeley?? Who's the drippy male??

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