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David Copperfield Dickensalong

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Piggywaspushed · 04/01/2020 11:36

Hello All

Inspired by the Bleak House readalong, I have decided this might be the year to tackle David Copperfield.

Those of us who did BH read it obediently in Dickens' instalments ,which wasn't to everyone's taste! We had a chat at the end of each month. It took 18 months and I think we had three stalwarts left at the end.

DC was published as follows (note different months!):

• I – May 1849 (chapters 1–3);
• II – June 1849 (chapters 4–6);
• III – July 1849 (chapters 7–9);
• IV – August 1849 (chapters 10–12);
• V – September 1849 (chapters 13–15);
• VI – October 1849 (chapters 16–18);
• VII – November 1849 (chapters 19–21);
• VIII – December 1849 (chapters 22–24);
• IX – January 1850 (chapters 25–27);
• X – February 1850 (chapters 28–31);
• XI – March 1850 (chapters 32–34);
• XII – April 1850 (chapters 35–37);
• XIII – May 1850 (chapters 38–40);
• XIV – June 1850 (chapters 41–43);
• XV – July 1850 (chapters 44–46);
• XVI – August 1850 (chapters 47–50);
• XVII – September 1850 (chapters 51–53);
• XVIII – October 1850 (chapters 54–57);
• XIX-XX – November 1850 (chapters 58–64).

I am happy to negotiate reading faster so that we tackle three instalments at a time? Thus , the first would be Chapter 1 -9 and we would be finished in the summer.

What does everyone think?

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Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2020 19:05

Yes, there was a sea change and I found Annie a bit unconvincing but I suppose it's like when EastEnders or Doctors decides to do a 'morality plot'...

I prefer it to Austen, though, where everyone always appears so vacuous!

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Terpsichore · 01/06/2020 17:38

Did anyone else really notice the contrast between the comic bits and the very Victorian, rather preachy passages - especially the Annie Strong part, where she gives forth this great high-flown plea for forgiveness? I felt a certain tension there, and I wasn't sure that it always worked that well. Almost as though Dickens felt he had to include some storylines that ticked those moralistic boxes, but was more comfortable (and certainly more original) with the lighter comic material.

But I suppose this was early in his writing career and he was still working out how to do all this...

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2020 17:18

Oh, well done for catching up !! Gold star to you!

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nowanearlyNicemum · 01/06/2020 17:02

Well, I whizzed through the final chapters this afternoon and have just caught up on your chat. I too thought that Dora resembles DC's Mum in many ways.
Hooray for David punching the evil Uriah. (I almost cheered!)
Happy to keep the reading pace and finish in July.
Onward to Chapter 57... obviously dying to know what beans Martha might be ready to spill!

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2020 14:00

OK, so let's read ( and knit, if you will) to the end of Chapter 57 .

Talking of continuity there was a woeful example of a disappearing omelette on Killing Eve yesterday.

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FortunaMajor · 01/06/2020 13:54

There are two books Terpsichore the sequel is What Else Would Madame Defarge Knit? which had better patterns in my opinion. The editor of the book used to do a podcast called CraftLit that did readalongs to classics. I don't know if it's still going.

The worst screen knitting offence I have seen is two knitting needles stabbed through a finished piece of crochet that the actress was vigorously wafting in her lap. I was quite incensed.

Terpsichore · 01/06/2020 13:21

I'm going to check that out properly now, Fortuna, thank you. I only got as far as looking at the thumbnails of the patterns.

(Apologies for a brief derail into knitting chat, but Great Expectations was on TV the other day - the David Lean version. Estella was knitting in one scene and Valerie Hobson looked as though she knew what she was doing, although the piece of 'knitting' looked more like netting. Then the long-shot changed to a close-up and she was clearly holding a piece of knitting at a much later stage of construction, with many more rows completed in a different pattern. Then they went back to the long-shot and the earlier version reappeared.

I had to laugh at how indignant I felt at this bad knitting continuity! 🧶)

FortunaMajor · 01/06/2020 13:01

She never left off, or left us for a moment. I had arrived early in the day, and we had still three or four hours before dinner; but she sat there, playing her knitting-needles as monotonously as an hourglass might have poured out its sands. [...] I was conscious presently of the evil eye passing me, and going on to her, and coming back to me again, and dropping furtively upon the knitting. What the knitting was, I don’t know, not being learned in that art; but it looked like a net; and as she worked away with those Chinese chopsticks of knitting-needles, she showed in the firelight like an ill-looking enchantress, baulked as yet by the radiant goodness opposite, but getting ready for a cast of her net by-and-by. [...] In the drawing-room, there was the mother knitting and watching again. [...] I would rather have remained down-stairs, knitting and all, than gone to bed. I hardly got any sleep. Next day the knitting and watching began again, and lasted all day.

Sounds like a good use of two days to me. One of the reasons I have embraced audiobooks so much is that it allows me to knit at the same time. Nothing like a good book and a good stretch of stocking stitch in the round. There is a surprising amount of knitting mentioned in the book, with 4 women at it at some point or other.

Terpsichore I don't know if you have ever seen the Defarge book itself, every project is inspired by classic literature and the patterns are interspersed with essays about the book/character that inspired them.

Happy with the choice to split the rest, just let me know where I should be reading up to please.

bibliomania · 01/06/2020 12:52

No objection to two more months.

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2020 12:27

Naturally!!

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Terpsichore · 01/06/2020 12:23

Mrs Heep when she was standing sentinel over DC and Agnes to make sure they didn't get up to any funny business, Piggy

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2020 12:17

I missed the knitting... who was knitting??

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BookWitch · 01/06/2020 12:11

Fine by me too

Terpsichore · 01/06/2020 11:30

Absolutely fine by me, Piggy.

I'm a knitter too, Fortuna, I hear you Grin. He obviously liked the image, though - I instantly thought of Madame Defarge in A Tale of Two Cities, knitting furiously away by the guillotine.

There's an online knitting/crafts site called Ravelry which some will know - I've seen a book of patterns on there called 'What Would Madame Defarge Knit?' Grin

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2020 11:22

It feels like a lot to me and I don't want to route march through it and miss stuff. I have liked the slower read as I am normally a terrible skim reader and this makes me savour the writing.

Does anyone mind awfully if we do two more parts? Obviously if you want to read the whole thing, go for it, but we will discuss Chapters 47 - 57 on July 1st?

Is that OK?

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FortunaMajor · 01/06/2020 11:12

My audiobook claims we're at 77%. 5 hours left at x1.6 speed so doable, but I'm equally happy to split it. I think the past sections we've done have averaged at about 3 hours worth each.

FortunaMajor · 01/06/2020 11:06

I'm listening to an audiobook version and the voice Anton Lesser does for Uriah Heap makes my skin crawl.

I'm finding it quite oddly balanced for action. 2 months ago there was nothing to say then last month it was all go, lots happening this month too. As mentioned there's a lot to be tied up before the end. I'm finding the vast cast of characters a bit much. I'm struggling to keep up with everyone because I leave it to the end of the month and the long gap means I've forgotten everything.

I was quite interested in the language used to describe knitting. He obviously wasn't a knitter himself. I was listening out for the hair bit Piggy and it made me laugh. Lots of out of control hair here too.

Terpsichore · 01/06/2020 10:55

It's 218 pages in my virtual copy. I'd be fine to carry on to the end - some of the remaining chapters are pretty short. But if we do two more that's OK by me, as you're going to be busy, Piggy.

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2020 10:51

Dickens does like his Agneses . I am pretty sure it's the very last word of Oliver Twist.

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Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2020 10:50

Yes, I think that could be the plan, although it is a lot of chapters. It is only about 200 pages in my copy.

What do others think?

The other alternative is to do chapters 47 -53 in June : I am set to be a lot busier this month. I await thoughts!

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BookWitch · 01/06/2020 09:59

Finish in June I mean

BookWitch · 01/06/2020 09:54

I'd be happy to push on through to the end in June

bibliomania · 01/06/2020 09:45

Dora was played for laughs in the film, and it worked well.

300 pages is quite a lot, tbf - many complete books are shorter. Are we doing the remaining chapters this month? It feels like there's a certain amount of exit velocity.

Terpsichore · 01/06/2020 09:41

The women of wisdom and judgment (Betsy, Agnes) are ranged on one side; poor, infantile child-wife Dora with her guitar and her pretty pouting is on the other. David needs to learn and grow as well. I suspect Dora's not long for this world.

BookWitch · 01/06/2020 08:53

I hadn't thought about Dora being similar to David's mother before, but you're right. Dora is so fluffily awful, she would be a comedy character if our David wasn't now trapped with her.

Does anyone else have a feeling that the ending will be either very rushed, or not satisfactory with too many loose ends? We have barely 300 pages to go and we still need to find out what happens to Emily, we need to get Traddles married, the Micawbers will probably get ruined again, Steerforth and Littimer need their comeuppance, Agnes needs to get married, we need to find out the mystery in Betsy Trotwood's past (who was the man in her carriage that day in London, the Murdstone's will no doubt have an ending of sorts. It's an awful lot to cram in.