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David Copperfield Dickensalong

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Piggywaspushed · 04/01/2020 11:36

Hello All

Inspired by the Bleak House readalong, I have decided this might be the year to tackle David Copperfield.

Those of us who did BH read it obediently in Dickens' instalments ,which wasn't to everyone's taste! We had a chat at the end of each month. It took 18 months and I think we had three stalwarts left at the end.

DC was published as follows (note different months!):

• I – May 1849 (chapters 1–3);
• II – June 1849 (chapters 4–6);
• III – July 1849 (chapters 7–9);
• IV – August 1849 (chapters 10–12);
• V – September 1849 (chapters 13–15);
• VI – October 1849 (chapters 16–18);
• VII – November 1849 (chapters 19–21);
• VIII – December 1849 (chapters 22–24);
• IX – January 1850 (chapters 25–27);
• X – February 1850 (chapters 28–31);
• XI – March 1850 (chapters 32–34);
• XII – April 1850 (chapters 35–37);
• XIII – May 1850 (chapters 38–40);
• XIV – June 1850 (chapters 41–43);
• XV – July 1850 (chapters 44–46);
• XVI – August 1850 (chapters 47–50);
• XVII – September 1850 (chapters 51–53);
• XVIII – October 1850 (chapters 54–57);
• XIX-XX – November 1850 (chapters 58–64).

I am happy to negotiate reading faster so that we tackle three instalments at a time? Thus , the first would be Chapter 1 -9 and we would be finished in the summer.

What does everyone think?

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Piggywaspushed · 03/03/2020 17:35

Aldi Nutella ! Whatever is the world coming to!? Grin

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Noworrieshere · 03/03/2020 13:22

Wrong name, I'm also Knitwit, I'm a bit of a regular namechanger. I've given all my secrets away now!

Noworrieshere · 03/03/2020 13:21

Well I've finally got to the end of chapter 18. I didn't enjoy that chapter particularly, I just sort of skipped over it.

And the Micawbers, I really don't like them. I keep thinking they are going to take any money David has managed to save up or somehow take advantage of him, they seem the sort of people who would take advantage of anyone. But they haven't so far, maybe they really care about him. God love him, he's so vulnerable without a family around him. I guess there were lots of kids in that situation back then. And my boys have the cheek to complain when I buy Aldi own brand Nutella.

bibliomania · 03/03/2020 10:24

Well done to your school for bringing in Germaine Greer to speak to you all, Pale - I can imagine it was eye-opening!

Palegreenstars · 02/03/2020 21:08

Discussion of Romeo and Juliet has reminded me of Germaine Greer coming to do a talk at my school when I was 13. It was an all girls school and she explained that Juliet was 13 and Rome was probably 16. I think it was one of my first introductions to feminist theory and I’d completely forgotten until now. We were such young 13 year olds really we were in fits of giggles that Juliette was our age.

bibliomania · 02/03/2020 12:57

I'd heard that about the ages. Aristocratic families were the exception to the rule - you had to get them locked into a strategic alliance before they got old enough to make their own choice. For those who had to work for a living, best to get them out earning for a bit before marriage.

Piggywaspushed · 02/03/2020 12:17

No, apparently not : and this is interesting because the pat context for R and J is always ' ah well, they all married young in them days'. It seems Shakespeare was aware wealthy Italians had done/did but we must never assume that reflects his own reality.

Illegitimacy and so on was very frowned upon and they seemed to be pretty good at keeping their legs crossed!

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ChessieFL · 02/03/2020 11:56

That’s older than I would have thought Piggy. Romeo and Juliet were famously about 13 weren’t they, and the royals always seemed to marry them off young (Margaret Beaufort (mother of Henry VII) was married and pregnant at 13) so I would have assumed it was lower than 25.

Piggywaspushed · 02/03/2020 11:19

You made me well up there knit with your lovely reading of Mr Dick!

I got Annie and Agnes confused , too, but when you get to the 'intrigue' (they are so obviously in love...) all becomes clearer. I am not sure how much it will matter later on, though , I'm afraid.

Lots of really young women did marry much older men in Victorian times. It seems creepy to us but it's s central plot point in Bleak House and in Middlemarch.

I read yesterday that the average age to marry in Shakespeare's day was 25 , which I found interesting. He himself was married at 18, which was unusually young.

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Knitwit99 · 02/03/2020 09:42

I'm behind, only on chapter 16. And a bit confused by Dr Strong and Jack Maldon and Dr Strong's wife, and keep getting Annie and Agnes mixed up. I can't keep up with all the characters. What is the point of Maldon? Is he going to become more significant, or can I just skip his part of the story? I need a few less characters to follow.

And also, Mr Dick makes me so sad and happy at the same time. Because he reminds me so much of my neighbour who is in his 30s and lives with his parents. They worry so much about where he will go when they can't look after him. I am so glad Betsey brought Mr Dick into her home. Imagine what would have happened to him if she hadn't. It's lovely that he has a place where he can just be his own self in his own way and he is safe.

And she asks his opinion and makes him feel valued. I just love them. And I love his opinions. They are so practical and concerned only with right now, no worrying about what might happen. What should we do with this boy and his entire future? Give him a bath and get him some clothes. Obvious really.

bibliomania · 02/03/2020 09:13

Another one who loved Trotwood v the Murdstones. And Dave being wrapped in a blanket and renamed, very much of a rebirth going on there.

I enjoyed chapter 18 and his fast-forward through adolescence, complete with hopeless crushes on various girls.

Terpsichore · 01/03/2020 22:48

Anyway, at least the vile Murdstones are ousted. I cheered inwardly (and would have done so outwardly if I hadn't been on a train) when Miss Trotwood gave them their marching orders. Very satisfying indeed.

Piggywaspushed · 01/03/2020 21:18
Grin

Try the Spark Notes linked above. I can't help as I have not enthusiastically steamed ahead yet.

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nowanearlyNicemum · 01/03/2020 21:17

I know I know I'm sorry. But as it concerns literally the very first few pages of the 9 chapters we are reading next I thought I might get away with a quick question.

My apologies. Consider my wrists suitably slapped!

Piggywaspushed · 01/03/2020 21:05

I find Mr Wickfield confusing full stop!

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Piggywaspushed · 01/03/2020 21:04

Ermmm... yes, I meant April 1st Blush

We are reading the next three lots in my OP, so Chaps 19 -27.

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BookWitch · 01/03/2020 21:02

Which Chapter are we reading up to for April 1st?

FortunaMajor · 01/03/2020 20:57

Nicemum I was equally a bit lost on that one. Dickens does like to throw a lot of characters into the mix. I've decided that if he were alive today he'd be a script writer for Eastenders or the like.

Gradesaver DC Summary chapters 16-20

Cliffnotes and Sparknotes also have more in depth chapter by chapter analysis, but this one is very simple.

Piggywaspushed · 01/03/2020 20:39

not til March 1st! AngryWink

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nowanearlyNicemum · 01/03/2020 20:28

OK, so I've just read Chapter 19 and was COMPLETELY LOST throughout the whole section with the discussion between Dr Strong, Mr Wickfield, Annie, Mrs Markleham. And I mean COMPLETELY LOST!! If anyone could enlighten me I'd be most grateful Blush

Piggywaspushed · 01/03/2020 19:47

I was in Scotland, too. We also did no Dickens! Lots of Shakespeare, To Kill A Mockingbird, Lord of the Flies and done Arthur Miller. And then Brecht, Hardy and Burns later. Did you do Sunset Song?

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Knitwit99 · 01/03/2020 19:35

I never read a single thing by Dickens in school. We did Romeo and Juliet and that is the only Shakespeare I remember too. I am in Scotland, we must have read more Scottish authors but I really don't remember. Liz Lochhead is the only one that sticks in my mind. There must have been some Burns poetry. Edwin Morgan, we read his poems. I can't remember a single other thing.

And even as an adult I have mostly avoided all the classics, although I read a lot. But rarely anything written more than about 50 years ago.

So I'm really enjoying reading all you have to say about this book, it's so interesting. I guess it's never too late to start.

Terpsichore · 01/03/2020 19:01

nowanearlyNicemum Dickens's father was in debt and someone suggested to the family that he (Charles) could help the situation by earning some money - they sent him to work at the blacking factory just off the Strand (and later in Covent Garden) and he was completely traumatised by it. He was 11/12.

The person he really blamed was his mother because when his father came out of prison (having managed to pay his debts) and Charles was discharged from the factory, she tried to get him kept on. He never forgot that and it coloured his attitude to women forever after. He supported his parents financially (and his brothers and sisters too) for years but always with a sort of suppressed impatience at their improvidence. Those childhood memories of feeling like an abandoned outcast from the family went very deep with him, I think.

Knitwit99 · 01/03/2020 17:43

Oh no I am so far behind. I thought I had omly to read to chapter 12 for February and read something else instead, but I should have read to 18! Another 90 pages to go.
I have read all the chat anyway, I sometimes find these sorts of books easier to get through if I know the story in advance, if that makes sense.

nowanearlyNicemum · 01/03/2020 17:06

*want