Please or to access all these features

What we're reading

Find your new favourite book or recommend one on our Book forum.

The Secret Commonwealth - spoilers

33 replies

Loopytiles · 06/10/2019 21:01

Had been looking forward to this, but disappointed. Started well, but was just so bleak, a drab world, way too much content about the politics, clunky philosophising and too obvious parallels to some of today’s current affairs and problems.

OP posts:
Pantalaimon88 · 08/10/2019 16:39

Just finished!

I agree with Loopy that it was much bleaker and darker than HDM and LBS, and doesn’t have the same sense of magic. But I wonder if that’s because in those books, the protagonists are all children, and in TSC they are all adults. Maybe that was deliberate, and similar to the Harry Potter books, the tone shifts and changes as the characters get older?

It did seem very seeped in politics which I found quite difficult to follow in places. I’m hoping this will all be tied up in the final book.

I like Malcolm’s character a lot, I’d be happy if he ended up with Lyra. I really hope we see Will again though in the final book, even if we just see his daemon. I was really saddened by Lyra and Pan’s estrangement Sad

Also, I’m quite pleased with myself as whilst reading LBS I hazarded a guess that Alice was the housekeeper in Jordan who raised Lyra! I doubted myself though due to the different last name and the fact I’d imagined the housekeeper to be much older. But I’m pleased I was right about that!

Juliecloud · 07/10/2019 19:45

I did like it but I’m a bit disappointed by all the loose ends. I’m sure Philip Pullman will bring it altogether in the next one but I wish I didn’t have to wait for it (another 2 years?)

I felt so sad for Lyra and Pan and their broken relationship. Oh and when Lyra thought she saw Will, but it was Olivier 😭😭😭😭

Could Will’s daemon be stranded in Lyra’s world? That’s what I thought when Lyra was dreaming about seeing Will’s daemon (or was that when she was using the alethiometer, I can’t remember).

LaBelleSauvage123 · 06/10/2019 22:27

I haven’t quite finished - loved the first part, but agree that once Lyra, Malcolm and Pan go on their separate journeys it gets a bit laboured. Too plot and theme driven for me - not enough character and relationships.

CalmConfident · 06/10/2019 22:11

Me too..I like Will more than Lyra 😁

Loopytiles · 06/10/2019 21:45

Interesting theory, CalmConfident.

I did really want Will, or his daemon to appear.

OP posts:
CalmConfident · 06/10/2019 21:34

But yes...felt a bit laboured...need the next book!!!

CalmConfident · 06/10/2019 21:33

I did not like the Mal in love with Lyra theme either...bit icky Confused

One thing I noticed...lots of going on about Wills ability to “go invisible”. This dovetails with my theory that his mum is a proper witch stranded in our world...and that witches daemons can still separate but are all cats. His cat tripping up the man, that random cat showing the way to cittogazze (and getting hounded by children there later), Jon parry refusing the witch who eventually kills him (already committed/married to a witch ) and of course then wills invisible act and cat daemon. Just needed to get that out my system!!!

Also, the steam ship schedule for the levant is in the Lyras oxford book as well as their encounter with the oxford alchemist..

Loopytiles · 06/10/2019 21:03

Had quite liked Belle Sauvage.

Particularly disliked the teacher being “in love with” the pupil being presented as fine because she was no longer his pupil, especially with the age gap.

OP posts: