Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - the SPOILER thread!

Grindelwald stole it from Gregorovitch didn't he? So maybe he never really had it under complete control?

Quick question for you - if the Elder wand is undefeatable (is that a word?!) then how would anyone ever win it?! i.e. how did Dumbledore win it from Grindelwald in their dual?

oh, yess, forgot abut talking Patronus in HBP - I take that criticism back!

Patronuses talked in HBP, Tonks sent hers up to the castle after she found Harry.

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I must admit I did think at a few points "oh soandso was right about that then" and had a little laugh to myself

I'm a bit disappointed with the book tbh. Compared to the others in the series it was all just a bit derivative - hero wanders around for ages in the wilderness carrying an object central to the plot that affects him and his companions (like Lord of the Rings), baddy can possess people who he thinks are friends (like Terminator 2!), hero sacrifices himself and thereby gets resurected and wins the day (like Lion Witch and Wardrobe, not to mention the Bible!).

Also how come we've never seen Patronus's can talk before (until of course its necessary for the plot); wasn't it convenient that just as the trio lose the one thing that can destroy Horcruxes, all of a suden they remember something else; also what happened to the thing about Horcruxes desperately trying not to be destroyed - Ron had a really bad time destroying the locket and then Hermione manages hers and it just gets referred to in a single sentence; and I found the "wand top trumps" at the end a bit silly too tbh.

I'm also really annoyed that after Harry's speech to lupin about not deserting Teddy which seems to have had the desired effect, all of a sudden BOTH his parents desert him and go into battle...

All in all, I've really enjoyed the series up until book 7 (except Book 5 which was really crying out for an editor)and now I'm left with a sort of candy floss feeling :-(

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Well I have one thing to say to all people who poo-poohed my "Harry is a Horcrux" theory..

ner ner ner ner told yer so

I was gutted about Dobby, more than any of the other deaths apart from possibly Fred.

Tbe Snape/Lily stuff was a good idea but not particularly well executed imo.

Am now going to read the rest of the books again so I can see what there is of significance in them.

I was so looking forward to seeing who came into magic later in life.

Snape is a goody - not a shock
Harry is a horcrux - not a shock
Neville becomes Herbology professor - not a shock
Harry has kids called Lily & James - not a shock

I wonder who is headmaster @ hogwarts 19 years on????

Have just managed to complete the book having spent a w/e in seclusion - no newspapers or internet. Really cried at the part where the resurrection stone brought back his parents - found that really emotional......

Was expecting more from Petunia though ?

I still dont like snape, hiding in bushes wathcing little girls on swings not right in my book!LOL

hi rosmerta, I was good wasnt I?
I didn't know I had it in me! LOL

So glad she did "something" and not just make everyones food!

I was a bit let down by Lupin and Tonks getting married and Lupin not even telling Harry! I thought that wasnt right

Lupin was always going to go, Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs, they died in reverse order, sorry about Tonks, but at least Teddy had a Gran and Harry.

I found it hard to have sympathy with James and Sirius, but I guess it was supposed to show that Snape drove Lily to James by his own treatment of her. They did have some redeeming features tough, they fought in the first order, they would have died for their friends, they weren't judgemental of Lupin and they all sacrificed themselves for Harry.

I wish we knew what had happened to George and Luna, but was glad to see that Percy was still a crashing bore right till the end

Also wish I hadn't read the 19yeas later bit

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Mrs Weasley was fab!

I loved the bit where Snape went through the window and McGonagells response!

I feel like I did when the last episode of 'Friends' aired. Its very hard when a long running story comes to an end. I feel quite low.

Yes, I liked Flitwick, and Sprout. Oh, LOVED the bit where Trelawney chucked the crystal ball on greyback's head! Classic!

I loved it when Harry attacked the death eater who spat at McGonagall. I wish she had featured more, and that it had been said in the last chapter what had happened to her. I always really liked her.

I quite liked the last duel.

I've always thought that Harry should taunt Voldemort more by yelling at him 'oooh killing a school boy, you big all-powerful wizard, everyone will be impressed by that. Not'. And by laughing at his adopted title of 'Lord'. Because that's actually a really embarassing thing for Riddle to have done. It's really childish, like pretending that your real mum is Madonna.

But how many of Harry's nearest and dearest can JK kill off? - she's killed off his parents, Godfather, beloved Headmaster, his fathers only other decent friend and his favourite Auror. I think Hagrid would have overdone the personal loss - although I was half-expecting it!

Going with who got reprieved...

It had to be Hagrid surely? He seemed like he was dead, it would have been more moving if he was, and then he suddenly pops up again