Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - the SPOILER thread!

i loved it!!!

so imaginative and moving - i will def read it again

I think the epilogue is enough. I dont think you need a paragpraph on each key character - better to leave it to a child's imagination and know that they lived happily ever after!!

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Flame: according to wikipedia:

"As Albus Dumbledore later explains to Harry, an ancient magic now binds the two, and, "A day may come when you will be very glad you saved Pettigrew's life". That day did come, when Pettigrew was sent to check on the then captured Harry and Ron. Pettigrew hesitated in killing them, and for showing mercy, the magic prosthetic hand that had been created for him by Voldemort attacked and strangled Pettigrew to death."

ah ok, that kind of makes sense, thanks flame

At first i thought that he doesn't really care about loyalty tho does he? But then he does make a big thing in previous books about the DE who remained loyal while he was away.

Voldemort had made the hand, and he set it up to only work if he was loyal? The hesitation meant loyalty waning, so it turned.

I think....

Yup, I think it is the bit that was written back in the beginning too

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Not quite sure i understand how the second's hesitation meant that the silver hand turned on himself?

Loosing track of where i read things (as am v bored at work and have been reading the forums on mugglenet too), but someone either here or there made the point that the epilogue could well have been the part that has been written for years and locked in JKR vault. Which is why it doesn't necessarily match book 7 but does match book 1.

If this is the case, i find it fascinating how the whole series has been put together, and am in awe of someone who can do that!

Ah - thanks Flame

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Severus was supposed to be seen to be a nasty bit of work...he couldn't have been trusted by Voldemort if he was everybody's fave teacher could he! And he was not the nicest person anyway which is probably why him and Lily didn't get it on in the first place. He was overall a good man, though, and the bravery aspect was that he had to be nasty all those years, being disliked and dispised by everyone

The epilogue was also lacking but i do like a happy ending. I think if Tonks and Lupin had been rubbed in a bit morei'd have been inconsolable. JKR probably thought she'd give Childline a bit of a break.

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Read the bit about DD's sister again last night and I didnt see it as a sexual thing at all. I read it as them beating her because she wouldnt do magic for them which would scare a little girl dreadfully and her reaction to it!

not a spoiler so won't bother with * but i just LOVED Hermione's little evening bag

On the roof, Draco disarmed Dumbledore before their long chat and Snape killing him

*I speed-read the book & have obviously missed a really important part - exactly when did the elder wand choose Draco Malfoy? I don't remember anything about that at all so must have missed it in all the excitement

DH has just decided he wants to raed them - he's taken HP & the Philosopher's Stone to work to read on the bus This means that I'm not allowed to mention what happens in any of the other books 'til he's read them all - by which time 8mo DS will probably be reading them!

Ron just randomly hissed until he got it right

and i just loved that pettigrew throttled himself..........exactly what he deserved

Only just finished, been dying to join in this thread!
I thought the epilogue was lovely!!! I assumed she felt she had to do it to prevent other people from cashing in and writing sequels etc(although I never really understood that, surely everything is copyright protected?)
Snape is now my fave character - v complex.
Some of it was very contrived though and I was surprised at how much came out of the blue considering all the other trails that have been laid in the previous books. Ron, parseltongue???

I don't think there is any mention of Snape and Dumbledore having an unbreakable vow. I think that D just trusted him.

didnt snape also have an unbreakable vow with dumbledore to protect harry????????and i think snape probably knew that it wasnt harry anyway

If you remember in his memories he was actually aiming the spell at a death eater's wand hand but missed, getting George's ear instead.

Snape is still a goodie.

Rumours, second page.

OK correct myself. According to Wikipedia it was V that killed Moody but Sanpe still got Georges ear and it was only lucky it wasn't worse and lets remember that George was Harry at the time.

I'm probably going to get shouted at here but I still felt snape was a bad guy at the end. Yes I recognise all the stuff with him and Lily and thought it was incredibly sad and I really felt for him. But that doesn't make him a good guy. I know the thing with DD death was pre-arranged so can't hang that on him BUT he did still kill Moody didn't he. And was the one to get Georges ear. I was left with the feeling that he was a double agent at the end of the day and he was still a pretty nasty character and did many horrible things. He may have loved Harry's eyes but he still hated everything else about Harry.

I think he was quite a comlex character. He was a badie that we could feel for. I think the 4 friends made him what he was but that does not justify the things that he did.

yeah it was absolute pants,i think she totally disregarded the aftermath....i think that she should have done at least one more chapter as to how the weasleys coped after losing fred......explain what happened to all the death eaters,who became ministry of magic etc etc etc.

Where did you find the stuff about Neville & Luna on the website? Been looking but can't see it anywhere