Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - the SPOILER thread!

I think Hermione said that if it all worked out she could sort her parents out?

Just remembered the bit with Hermione when she's explaining how she has made her parents safe. Its quite funny but then she mentions that she's made them think they don't have a daughter. I thought that was incredibly sad. Imagine if she had died and they'd never have known they had her.

I like the fact that some of the characters aren't clear cut good or bad. Snape and Malfoy for example. Malfoy didn't go with the rest of the slytherins V says but we know it was because he was trying to get Harry with C&G. Then Ron rescues him from a deatheater and he is shouting that he is on their side (V's). And yet he has also done some good. Much more like real life.

well i mmjsut reading it again now......am up to the bit where the 7 harrys are going to fly off poor hedwig and moody.........mental blockage being used as trying to pretend i havent even read it

MamaG, Harry couldn't go to Hogwarts as it was too dangerous (til he had to obv) so couldn't talk to DD before. And there has to be a portrait of them first to talk to I think. Except the Headmasters it would seem whose paintings just appear.
That said, why is there no mention of Snape's portrait having appeared when Harry goes to speak to DD at the end???

Dumbledore's Girl, I think Charlie Weasley was in the fight. Pretty sure he is briefly mentioned. Tho can't check as DH is reading the book now.

Have been away and dying to get back and get on here.

Finished it on Monday night.
I was absolutely gutted by Dobby and cried, and when you thought Harry was going to have to die. Didn't cry for Remus and Tonks, or Fred for some reason.

I thought it was abit "Get on with it" when they were in the tent. But FUCK ME the end was brilliant!!!!!

The way she put in the little twists like Harry getting the wand off Draco meaning the elder wand was his. Then the blood in Voldie that meant he could live. Fantastic, explains the Gleam of Triumph in DD's eyes when he hears V used Harry's blood to be reborn with.

And DD's history was great, and so sad.

Then Snape, I think Snape got to me more than anything else. The way he wanted Harry to look at him so he could see Lily's eyes once more before he died.

His story was sad. Explains who that awful boy was, and why Petunia was so bitter.

I don't think there was anyone who did magic late.
LOVED Kreacher being Happy. That was great.

Was disappointed by the last chapter, I thought it would be like a narrative of Neville went on to do this and Harry went on to do that etc. Was okay, but was disappointed. Not the great epilogue I had anticipated.
Also no mention of George, which annoyed me. Did he carry on with Weasley's WW's after losing Fred???
Hardly any mention of others. And what did they all do for jobs???
I would assume there wasn't such a call for Aurors, but it would have been nice if it had been mentioned.

Loved MrsW racing to kill Bella, that was awesome. Was generally excellent despite discrepancies.

oh thanks for the link. it will keep my DC happy tomorrow (and me )

Oh dear Charlee, I may have to sue you for causing me to neglect my ds

These are a bit of fun

yeah rosmerta, I saw that, but being a bit of a geek about these things i'd like the encyclopaedia, and the authors cut to see how she would have woven it together.

then we could have more threads like this yeah!

mummypigoink, MrsW also mentioned, probably on another thread, that JK did say she might do an enclycopedia type book of everything to do with HP inc what happened to everyone afterwards!

think why there isn't more about how lupin and tonks died is cos for the whole book we only see what harry sees. and it's good not to get it all fed to you on a plate (although really I do want every last detail about everything).

i think (hope, wish, pray) there's an authors cut (like the directors cut in a dvd) of all the books waiting somewhere ~ once we've all bought the seven book box set and bloomsbury need something else pick the profits back up!!! Don't know how we'd be able to hold them tho!!!

thanks for the link mrs w ~ that and bumping off bellatrix, you are having a good week!!!

That's a great link MrsW

Yeah, the manner of his death surprised me. I thought he might go in a blaze of glory protecting Harry. But it kind of reflects his sad life really, doesn't it. Harry said '19 years later' that he was the bravest man he ever met, but he still died in a way that people never saw how 'good' he was. Having said all that vefore, I do think he came to be 'good' by the end. He owed DD a lot and seemed genuine enough when protecting Harry (even if he hated him - don't think that was an act ).

Have to say, the only thing that surprised me from Snape's memories were that he and Lily were childhood friends, and that DD knew he would die within the year. I was on the fence about him loving Lily when someone else suggested it (or several people!), but I wasn't surprised when that came to pass.

Someone said that Snape became horrible and nasty becasue of James and Sirius, but, while they certainly contributed, I think his parents relationship had far more to do with it. Sirius once said that Snape came to Hogwarts knowing more about the dark arts than anyone else. And Lily challenges him about his friends. It's the whole choice thing again. And as DD said (quite disgustedly), he only wanted Lily protected because he loved her, he didn't really care about James or Harry. Compare this to Harry who absolutely hates Malfoy, but saved his life twice. I doubt Snape would have saved James' life, really.

Yeah, none of the stuff about Snape was a surprise for me tbh, except the manner of his death of course. I thought he would die actively doing something to save Harry. But then I thought that because I couldn't see how else Harry could be made to see that Snape was a goodie really. I didn't think of him extracting his memories for Harry in his dying breath (amazing how he can do that and manage to give Harry exactly the right memories to tell the story!)

Actually (smug) i also, separately pointed out that Snape was arguing about not wanting to do something, and that was what i assumed it was referring to...

Hi DG, most people hated the epilogue (but I liked it, if it was a little nicey nicey). Dobby dying, Snape's life, Harry going into the forest with his loved ones = lump in everyone's throat, erm.... there are more points people have generally agreed on but those spring to mind now.

I finished it last night but if I read this whole thread through I will need another 2 days! So what are the basic points of this thread?

I feel some ends have been left untied but I can't think what they are...

Also, I want to know why Charlie Weasley did not feature in this book? If all the other Weasleys, even Percy, gathered for the fight, why didn't Charlie? And don't suggest because he is in Hungary or anything pathetic like that. He had the power of the dragons in his hands and could have brought them to bear very effectively.

Also, ner ner ner ner ner! I TOLD you all Snape was good and acting on Dumbledore's orders when he killed him. That was SO obvious.

Yes, thanks MrsW! I would never have found that if you hadn't put in that link. Btw, am going to have to change name back
Somebody thought i was Hungarian
Some people huh?

I suppose they are safe and hermione and ron visit them for sunday lunch regularly!

I made this bit up

MrsWeasly you are FAB... that answers so much of what I wanted to know, thank you thank you thank you.

BUT....

.... what about Hermione's parents

I read it here really

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