Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - the SPOILER thread!

sorry, not read the thread but does harry get it?

I would think the ring was put under a curse by Voldemort. And who knows if the Diadem was cursed. It may have been if you put it on.

Harry's blood that was inside Voldemort was, if ou will, acting like a Horcrux for him. So while V destroyed the horcrux in Harry, he couldn't kill him. Harry would've died if someone had killed V at the same time cos his blood would have not been keeping V alive anymore.
See????

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Harry was an accidental Horcrux - so no curse protection.
The ring had the curse on it (as we know)
The necklace had that negativity curse thing and then "spoke" to Ron to try and persuade him not to destroy it.
The diary's curse was that it tried to take you over.
The goblet was presumably considered "safe" as it was in a gringott's vault, so no curse (other than the generic gringott's curses) was deemed necessary?
Nagini was with V all the time so "safe".
So it was just the diadem that appears to have been uncursed for no real reason, doesn't it?

I think H's blood was also magical in that his mother had died for his sake out of love for mim (the thing about V not understadning the magical power of love) and the fact that Harry was prepared to die for the most noble of reasons was alsowhat protected him and allowed him the choice of staying in "King's Cross" and "dying" or coming back.

Don't have the book with me though, and haven;t re-read that bit yet.

i dont know why the ring was so badly cursed..............it seems to me that the more obvious places to put the horcrux had deadlier charms protecting them

ie: the ring was at marvolo gaunts house which was quite easy to get to, then there was the necklace in the cave that had the inferi and that horrible drink.

they seemed to be the most obvious hoecruxes to find really.nagini was the horcrux which v probably though impossible for someone to kill as it was with him most of the time...........harry was the horcrux so the killing curse destroyed that..........im waffling sorry

yeah i hated kreacher cos of the sirius thing......but all he wanted was affection,which was sirius's downfall really.

v used harrys blood in the GOF so even tho harry died, his blood still ran through voldermorts body........which was the loophole in harry coming back to life,and as he scrificed himself for the greater good everyone that was fighting got the protection like harry got off his mother

I bet Kreacher wasn't freed... he would have considered it an insult - remember Dobby was a bit "weird" in that respect

Reckon Harry and Ginny would have been really nice to him though.

Well I loved both Dobby and Kreacher

Actually I hated kreacher in the 5th book becuase of sirius but as soon as I saw him on screen I thought he was lovely

Thanks Prettybird. Still don't get it really though. I mean it must be something magical because if H had given some of his blood to V via a transfusion, their lives would not be linked. I know I am being obtuse, but I just find all that quite hard to understand. Do children understand it I wonder?

Voldemrot had used Harry Potter's blood to bring him back to life, so when he "killed" him, all he did was kill the Horcrux within HP. Becasue V was still alive, then Harry could still live.

And that Harry's wand can't have done magic by itself.

I know it's kind of the point but does anyone else get annoyed that Hermione only believes certain things and dismisses other stuff, such as the DHs as rubbish. Just reading the bit at the Lovegoods' and she is really irritating me.

led to Dumbledore's death

Also why was the ring cursed and ultimately would have left to Dumbledore's death but none of the other horcruxes were?

Can someone explain (or point me in the direction of where it is explained) why Harry did not die at the end when V "killed" him. I find all that "you cannot die but you must die but you wont die" stuff a bit confusing

Wasn't he great when he was happy.

Loved it when Kreacher used to mutter under his breath, just what I did with my parents as a teenager!
The idea of him preparing steak and kidney pudding (was it that? resisting urge to run downstairs and check in book) for them, made me laugh, what a turnaround!

Dp agrees with you Ali.

Dobby gets on his nerves.

He loves Kreacher though.

Yes, perhaps he was a bit grovelley with Harry. Esp in CoS.

But he was still lovely and I cried when he died

Aaah sorry everyone, thought I might be sticking my neck out a bit with my Dobby thoughts.
I think it was more his manner with Harry rather than his deeds, which were, you're right a big deal. I think the comic side of his actions and words in the previous books were overplayed a bit which I found annoying.

alipotter
Dobby was so his own elf that he disobeyed his family and warned Harry in CoS. Hardly subserviant. He did it because he didn't like the Dark Arts and Voldemort, and believed in Harry and DD. He had a mind of his own and to disobey an order is a huge deal for a HE but he did it anyway

Must be alone in the fact then that I found Dobby quite irritating?
Wasn't glad he was killed or anything but I never really warmed to him, the subservience thing was a bit sickly for me. The rescue was good though, but I would have preferred another character to do that.Can't think who though.
I liked Kreacher though - perhaps because he had more spirit than Dobby, more his own man/elf!

Ah... that explains it then

no its in the goblet of fire