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let's talk about Kevin - tell me about it please

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losty · 15/03/2007 20:46

thansk!

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snowleopard · 16/03/2007 10:40

I wasn't able to finish it, it wore me down, though I did think it was interesting. Didn't help that my sister gave it to me for my birthday just after the birth of my son!

MrsPhilipGlenister · 16/03/2007 10:29

So interesting how this book polarises opinions.

I was quite for the first 100 pages or so but then became completely gripped by it and the ending blew me away, utterly. For me it would be a "must read", actually.

choosyfloosy · 16/03/2007 10:26

I found it completely gripping, but not really any contribution to any debate (which is fine btw). Maybe because the only way I could deal with the bleakness and sordidness of the situation was to see it as a fantasy - the kind of nightmare fantasy I might have had as a first-time pregnant mum - 'i'm going to be totally inadequate and useless as a mother, my relationship will be ruined, my child will be entirely evil and I won't understand it' etc etc. What makes it so disturbing is that I didn't find any situation in it unbelievable - it's just not believable that any individual would have all those situations.

More like a Gothic horror novel than a contemporary debate thing.

For horrible reality but true humanity and a real debate, try A Fine Balanace by Rohinton Mistry.

ScottishThistle · 16/03/2007 10:25

I'm half way through it & have to agree it does seem to be written by a Woman with very little understanding/love for children...It's a harrowing but good read so far though.

nickytwotimes · 16/03/2007 10:18

if lionel shriver hates kids, then why the angelic sister? remember, we have an extremely unreliable narrator, as in notes on a scandal. shriver raises the(granted, somewhat tired) nature/nurture debate.

TwoIfBySea · 15/03/2007 22:47

It is rare that I dislike a book so much, I knew nothing of the author when one of dh's colleagues gave him the book for me to read. I have never read a book that was so biased, I began to wonder why the author was so anti-children, Kevin was evil from the start. There was no real character development, the shocks and ending were so predictable that I struggled to finish it then wished I hadn't bothered.

For a well-written dubious lead character Lionel should have read Notes On A Scandal on how to do it. The mother is truly awful, I have sons and found the way motherhood was described abhorrent. That is not to say that I am against other books where children are regarded with horror, it depends if they are well written which this was definitely not.

I then, after reading the book, read an interview where it was obvious that the author was expressing her feelings in a truly arrogant way. She doesn't like children and obviously could only write about what she believes rather than show some imagination or interesting narrative that would have had me (and plenty of others I have talked to about the book) see her point of view or sympathise/see the point of the main character.

Writing by numbers.

pointydog · 15/03/2007 22:24

It's a great book if you want to get a debate going.

Too many irritating flaws and things that didn't add up for me. It struck me as very unrealistic in the portrayal of this demon-child with no redeeming features whatsoever. And the fictional mother also seemed to dislike her daughter intensely (weak, clingy, dim) even though she sort of pretended to love her.

Yes, I thought this was a book written by a person who had very little knowledge, or like, of children.

themildmanneredjanitor · 15/03/2007 22:21

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Twiglett · 15/03/2007 22:21

oh its shite .. totally predictable from half-way through .. quite well-written but appallingly bad characterisation and no understanding of human relationships ..

I'd give it a big miss

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Aloha · 15/03/2007 22:19

I cannot read it because I think the same as Two if by sea. She gives all these interviews where she seems to think she is revealing a real social problem....but she just made it up because she hates children!

wpcanniecartwright · 15/03/2007 22:19

i really enjoyed it, could not put it down, did skim a bit occasionally admittedly but it really gripped me.

funnypeculiar · 15/03/2007 22:19

lol, 2ifbysea, but did you like it??

Fantastic book club book if you like a good fight ... as ours does! I loved it - thought-provoking, complex, disturbing. Although Lionel is not only female, but a royal PITA - went massively off the book once I'd heard her talk about it

ArcticRoll · 15/03/2007 22:18

But twobysea it IS fiction.
I found it an interesting but completely harrowing read.
Great choice for a book group as it will provoke lots of heated debate.

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Soapbox · 15/03/2007 22:18

I found it an okay read, but bleak really really depressing. Sadly I bought it to take on holiday with me and it most certainly is not a light fluffy holiday read.

The next time I went away I saw someone in the bookshop about to buy it and butted in and told her not to if she was off on holiday - she was exceedingly grateful but DH was exceedinly mortified

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NotanOtter · 15/03/2007 22:17

well said twoifbythesea

noddyholder · 15/03/2007 22:16

Great book Really appealed to me as I have a son and actually found it very moving

TwoIfBySea · 15/03/2007 22:15

It is written by a very bitter and twisted woman who cannot divorce her own personal feelings from the fact she is supposed to be writing a book about a fictional character.

Lionel might feel children are devils incarnate but which generation will be wiping her arse in the nursing home?

losty · 15/03/2007 21:09

I believe you I belioeve you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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nickytwotimes · 15/03/2007 21:03

honestly, losty, she sure is!

losty · 15/03/2007 21:02

lionel is a woman ?

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losty · 15/03/2007 21:01

thanks

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nickytwotimes · 15/03/2007 21:00

btw, did you assume, like me, that the author, lionel shriver, is a man? imagine my surprise when i saw HER in the guardian!

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