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Mumsnet Book club, The Water Horse Review

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sophiewd · 16/01/2007 12:43

Ok I'll kick off. I thought it was a bit of a bodice ripper, with a fairly weak and covenient love story, but the description of the hospital and the war made up for the books downsides. sorry its short but ot to pick up from nursery

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3mum · 17/01/2007 12:17

I'm obviously the wimpy one! I could just about deal with the mother dying but the harrowing bits in the Crimea just went on and on and I found myself skipping over them just trying to get to a bit which moved the plot on.

Have to say I did not really enjoy this book after the first couple of chapters and I agree with those who thought the ending was unsatisfactory. I got the impression Julia Gregson thought OK Spring has come I can just drop them here. By then end I was so fed up with them I was happy to leave them there too.

Sorry to be critical. Will try harder with the next book.

IamBlossom · 17/01/2007 11:47

can I please join the bookclub? Wot's the next book, will order it when I hear...

Ta muchly.

Bloss

xx

PS. Someone on another thread thought my nickname was Ian Botham, har har har. Just thought I'd share that, thought it was funny.

x

Roskvawantingsomesunshine · 17/01/2007 10:26

A friend of mine breeds horses .

Actually, I feel a bit bad that I chose a book that I ended up not even liking myself!

MissGolightly · 16/01/2007 22:20

Plus of course Roskva! Sorry Roskva, I didn't forget you, it was just as you had already chosen I didn't put you on the list of "still to choose"

MissGolightly · 16/01/2007 22:00

Originally Sheraz's suggestion was to choose in order of people signing up for the bookclub. Which would be:
McDreamy
DarrellRivers
ChocolateRobin
Sniff
octobermum
USAUKMum
sophiewd
3mum
bizzi
thechristmassyone
oasis
whenevilgotstuckupthechimney
quanglewangle
dizzydo
kandi
mozhe
GruffalosChild
Katsma
kernowcat
MissGolightly
TALLULAHBELLE
SpicymulledSheraz
Liv321
StrangeTown
Kaloo20
snowytyphoonsmum
pianist
mrspoppins
ladyfish
CoozerP
LittleSarah
rooo28
hoolio

...any others? These are all the names on the original thread. Some are obviously Christmas names so please amend the list with your current name if you've changed it.

According to this it should be McDreamy choosing the next book, but I guess if she doesn't turn up on this thread within a few days then we should just skip to the next person on the list.

How does that strike everyone?

Sheraz · 16/01/2007 21:35

Who is going to choose the next book? I have just bought Virginia Woolf 'Mrs dalloway'. But will hold off for the next one?

MissGolightly · 16/01/2007 21:30

Roskva I am very impressed with your knowledge of horse pregnancy! And I am relieved that you weren't totally sold on it either, I posted my comments and then suddenly worried that it was your favourite book of all time and I had slagged it off!

I too found myself wanting to slap Catherine - particularly at the beginning when her mother was dying and she hid outside the door. But in a way I didn't mind that, in fact I respected Gregson for having the guts to make her heroine imperfect and unlikeable. What got me was the slushy cliches and the contrived plotting. Only Shakespeare and Georgette Heyer can get away with girls running around the countryside dressed as boys!

Roskvawantingsomesunshine · 16/01/2007 21:04

The water horse is a mythical beast which is an allegory for facing up to one's fears, apparently.

What are you reading at the moment, sophie?

sophiewd · 16/01/2007 20:09

And I am really sorry but maybe I am feeling thick at the moment but where did the water horse come into it?

Also one more question how are we going about chossing the next book?

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Roskvawantingsomesunshine · 16/01/2007 17:47

I really enjoyed the first couple of chapters. I found the part about Catherine's mother's death really moving, and could almost feel the stifling loneliness she felt afterwards.

However, from then on Julia Gregson just asks us to suspend disbelief too much. OK, so Deio's brother is short sighted and pre-occupied and doesn't realise he's interviewing a girl, and none of the men on the drove catch on??? Or do they know really, which is why she gets a hotel room? In which case they were taking a huge risk, because Catherine's family could have had them charged with her abduction.

Deio would have been a Welsh speaker. I find it unlikely that he would strike up any kind of relationship with army officers: drovers weren't exactly high up the social ladder, and this is victorian England we're talking about. Equally unlikely that he would get a commission in the army - in those days an officer had to be a gentleman, although he could have enlisted as a private soldier. He is also surprisingly sentimental about his horses for a horse dealer - surely he would have arrived in Balaclava and sold the horses as quickly as possible for the best money he could get, because he knew that he would not be able to keep them in good condition?

Also, Julia Gregson obviously never read Black Beauty as a girl, or has never seen any nineteenth century hunting prints, otherwise she would have realised that almost all riding and carriage horses in those days had docked tails, making Deio's question about what happened to the horses' tails pointless. And if Cariad's foal was sired whilst she was running wild after the storm, it throws the whole timescale of the novel out - a horse pregnancy is 11 months.

On the plus side, I found the growing affection between Barnsie and Sam very moving, and much more believable. I think Catherine's love affair would have been more believable if Deio had been a gentleman rather than a drover. The crossing social boundaries bit really didn't work for me, even if it was just a convenient and unusual way of getting her to London.

Like pianist, I found the ending unsatisfactory, like are 2 people who are both AWOL from their respective posts really going to set up a cozy little home on the edge of a battlefield on enemy territory, with a couple of injured horses to rehabilitate?

Oops, it sounds like I'm being really nit-picky about this novel. I'm actually really disappointed with it, because the beginning was great, but the rest didn't live up to its promise for me. Somehow it seems to present itself in the wrong category: it is more Mills & Boon than historical novel. I found myself just wanting to slap Catherine and tell her to grow up! The only reason I bothered reading it to the end was because of this bookclub.

USAUKMum · 16/01/2007 15:53

This was also not a "normal" book for me -- as I don't tend to read history based novels. But I thought Gregson's writing was good. Though I thought that the plot was a bit patchy with some very convient happenings (would a Dr really take her in like that during that time). However her descriptions were very good, and I could really imagine it.

For me, the beginning was a bit drawn out. But I still enjoyed it. I will probably have a look at some of her other books.

pianist · 16/01/2007 14:51

I wouldn't have chosen this book for myself so I was very glad that you lot 'made' me read it. Don't normally pick up anything that could have anything vaguely upsetting in it - just chose lighthearted, funny books normally!! (No staying power since having kids...)

Anyway, loved the book. Thought the characters were excellent - hated the vile doctor. Very impressed that the author can tell such a vivid story about a war that she obviously wasn't there for (ie I mostly expect that authors are drawing on their own experience).

Found the ending very unsatisfactory - lots of questions! Did they get home? Did they take any horses? Did her father ever forgive her? Did they get married? Was his health OK? etc etc etc. Would have liked a 'look ahead to the future' chapter at the end, but that's just me - I like tidy ends!

MissGolightly · 16/01/2007 14:42

I broadly agree with Sophie, I thought the writing was generally very good - especially the bits about the war and the loss of Catherine's mother - and I was deeply impressed by the amount of research and period detail Gregson put in. I didn't realise until I read the Guardian review afterwards, that Catherine Carreg was a real person - according to Rachel Hore's review anyway.

But I felt the plotting was weak and that Gregson let herself get carried away with the love scenes. The tight writing frequently gave way to cliche, verging on Mills and Boon at times. I particularly squirmed at the end when she started off on the "tender probing of his tongue", yurch. And I was not impressed by the cheesy "no I don't want to oh all right then rape me if you must well he's a man and has needs and anyway he's in love so it's ok" rape/love scene between Catherine and Deio. Ok, standard fare for the Forever Amber school of bodice ripper, but surely in this day and age writers have got to be a bit more sophisticated than that?

Overall though, a good read.

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