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Riders - Jilly Cooper Book Club

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JillyCooperBookClub · 14/03/2016 09:53

It was a perfect spring day. Thickening crimson buds fretted a love-in-the-mist blue sky. The banks were draped with crocuses of the same Lenten purple as the altar cloth. A host of golden daffodils, retarded by the bitter winter, had just reached their prime and nodded their pale heads in approval.

Thus Helen falls for Rupert, and I fell for Jilly Cooper: against our upbringing and our better judgement, and despite every single red flag.

Riders wasn't my first Jilly Cooper, but the first I sought out, after a few stolen pages of another under dappled sun on Guide Camp as a teenager.

It starts deceptively happily, with gymkhanas and very proper sexless dates. But we mustn't be fooled: at every point every character is being judged by every other, and found wanting. Character flaws, damaging childhoods, trauma and tragedy: frankly it's a wonder any one of them made it to adulthood.

Rupert's friendship with Billy predates the neglect and misery of his childhood, so unsurprisingly it is the only healthy and unconditional human relationship he has.

There couldn't be much wrong with Rupert if he inspired friendship like this.

Rupert shivered, suddenly reminded of the desolation of Sunday nights at school, summoned by bells to Evensong, followed by cold ham and bread and marge for supper, and everyone else coming back feeling homesick from days out with their parents. Rupert had never really had a proper home to feel sick about.

And indeed it will be some years before he finds one.

We discussed on the general thread that Rupert is a bit, well, rapey. In Riders he has precisely zero respect for any woman's body autonomy (the very first time he and Helen meet he thrusts his hand into her jumper) and once he has any declared rights over a woman he takes absolute possession of her body.

With a colossal feeling of triumph he pushed her back on to the bed and began to move downwards, kissing her ribs, then her belly.

"No," she gasped, grabbing his head.

Firmly he removed her hands. "Shut up. You're mine now, to do exactly what I like with."

The foursome in Kenya is deeply, deeply troubling. Billy doesn't seem to realise how unwilling Helen is until he has raped her; Rupert is more concerned with how his friends will perceive them, and his response to finding her as dry as a marathon runner's throat is to declare her "useless"; Janey is so turned on by Rupert she doesn't stop to think about it. All three of them assault her together, until she escapes.

Any minute she expected an enraged Rupert to appear and drag her back to the torture chamber.

But the others were enjoying themselves. [...] Playing games of their own, they carried on till morning.

Days later, she falls for Jake: physically and romantically the exact opposite of Rupert. It was inevitable, surely, and as little as I like her I have the greatest sympathy. But I'll never forgive Jake as long as I live.

When I first read Riders I identified strongly with Tory. Poor unloved Tory - considered a fat failure, whilst in truth neither fat nor failing. Jilly is horribly judgemental about an ounce of spare fat on anyone, but she shows us that however miserable Tory might be, she is beautiful and perfect:

She was tallish and big boned, with a huge bust that bounced up and down as she walked. However she stood on the scales, she weighed eleven stone.

(Note: at 5'8", "tallish", that's a BMI of 23.4, and she promptly loses nine pounds when she falls in love, taking her to 22.5)

Actually she was much less far without her clothes on; rather splendid, in fact.

Tory is capable and loyal and loving and stoic and all the characteristics of a balanced human being. She doesn't expect Jake to love her; it's enough that she loves him.

"She loved you," said Fen bitterly. "Isa, Darklis, me, the horses, Wolf, were only extensions of how much she loved you. She knew you didn't love her, but she felt you needed her. That made life easier, that was enough."

"Oh, Christ," Jake groaned, putting his head in his hands. "I only realised in LA how much I loved her. [...] She always seemed so strong that she could cope with anything. I didn't realise I meant so much to her."

[...]

Frantic, he took her in his arms, trying to warm some life into the frail body.

"Don't die," he pleaded for the thousandth time. "Please don't die."

"Jake," came the faintest, faintest whisper.

I was going to talk about snobbery and class, and the animals, and the culture of celebrity, and the freedom of wealth, and Billy, and Malise, and political marriages, and fidelity, but I can't, because tears are streaming down my face yet again and my nose is running. So to cheer myself up, and to evidence Jilly's brilliance, I'll leave you with my favourite exchange:

"Will it be very fancy tonight?"
"Not particularly."
"Shall I wear pants?
Rupert's eyes gleamed. That was getting somewhere. "Certainly not," he said.
[...]
"Chicken, you are wearing pants. What's this?" he pinged the elastic."
"Panties," said Helen quickly. "You thought I'd go to a party without panties?"

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JillyTheDependableBoot · 20/03/2016 23:16

No, sorry, Maud, not iirc Sad

BeautifulMaudOHara · 20/03/2016 22:48

I think they have lobster salmon and crab?

JillyTheDependableBoot · 20/03/2016 22:37

Oh dear, I've been guilty of spoilers too. Sorry, OP.

I got two questions wrong in the quiz too - I also thought dinner, because of Rupert drenching his sea trout in tomato sauce. Also, Jake DID look for an obscure herb to cure Tory, but he couldn't find it/couldn't remember what it was, so I think that question isn't actually accurate.

A quiz question of my own: what do Rupert, Helen Billy and Janey have for lunch before the foursome?

Fedup21 · 20/03/2016 22:35

Did I hear Jilly had written a new book? What's the theme? We've had TV
Franchises, schools, polo, show jumping-what's next!

Will RCB be in it?

I hate to go against the grain, but I loved Janey!!

TwentyOneGuns · 20/03/2016 22:15

Octopus and gazpacho.

I got full marks on the quiz :)

BeautifulMaudOHara · 20/03/2016 21:55

Is it octopus?

BeautifulMaudOHara · 20/03/2016 21:54

Sorry for any spoilers Blush

kelpeed · 20/03/2016 21:05

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JillyCooperBookClub · 20/03/2016 21:04

Can we please just dial down the spoilers a fraction? A little look ahead is fine but there are some howlers here!

We ought to work on the assumption that we've all read some but not all of the series.

Right, as you were.

What does Rupert trick Jake into ordering, which makes him throw up?

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BalloonSlayer · 20/03/2016 20:57

I only got 9/10 on that quiz because I said that Rupert was first seen at dinner. But I think I am right! He is at dinner with Tory and a group just after she has bought Africa. < harrumph >

CallMeMousie · 20/03/2016 19:36

Lizzie he was always wayping his dirty fingers on my linen serviettes and putting his feet on my settee - Aye'm sure aye shall get a nice settlement and find a more civilised beau in good tayme.

LizzieVereker · 20/03/2016 19:15

CallmeMousie yes it was Donald Duck Star.

But I'm surprised you're speaking to me, since I stole your FredFred away Wink

Trills · 20/03/2016 19:11

Helen does keep on failing to eat, doesn't she? Even when she's just made sandwiches for other people.

Jilly does not have a healthy relationship with food or weight.

Arpege · 20/03/2016 19:10

I'm afraid my quiz has gone but I did find this one

Arpege · 20/03/2016 19:00

Hello all!

I'm cheating a bit as I'm not currently re reading the book (got a queue of stuff I need to read before I lose several weeks to Jilly) but I've been dipping in and out of this thread between dinner/bath/bed.

I did a Jilly quiz for a MN thread a loooong time ago now, wish I could find it again! I bet it was in chat and has gone Sad

CallMeMousie · 20/03/2016 18:51

Oh yes Balloon because the dogs drink from the loo and he's accuses her of trying to poison them!

BalloonSlayer · 20/03/2016 18:32

No she didn't use hair lacquer, that's just what Rupert says to express his dislike of it. I expect it was something like Femfresh or something new-fangled and American that a red-blooded Englishman like Rupert would consider unnatural. See also: disinfectant discs in the toilets and his comments about "it'll be musical lavatory paper next" or something.

ChessieFL · 20/03/2016 17:49

I never realised Jilly mixed up the LA and Moscow olympics! I guess, as you say, this was artistic licence.

Trills · 20/03/2016 17:48

Ah, thanks Chessie!

Vaginal deodorant - that was a thing was it?

And hair lacquer - that was also a thing that one might have lying around?

LittleBearPad · 20/03/2016 17:46

Only read Riders once versus the multitude of times I've read Rivals and Polo.

ChessieFL · 20/03/2016 17:42

Helen thought she was putting on some sort of vaginal deodorant, but she'd picked up the wrong thing and used hair laquer by mistake.

BeautifulMaudOHara · 20/03/2016 17:14

Not, I've never noticed nettles smelling of blackcurrant either

BeautifulMaudOHara · 20/03/2016 17:13

I just cheated and looked it up, Nightshade!

The scene where he bucks Rupert off and chases him around the ring is hilarious

Trills · 20/03/2016 16:58

"the wet, hot nettles gave off a heady blackcurrant scent".

Lovely description, but has anyone ever thought that nettles smell of blackcurrant?

JillyTheDependableBoot · 20/03/2016 16:57

Nope, not Revenge. And I ought to know how to spell Macaulay. Blush