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Bloody bastard chicklit with crap endings - sick of it, recommend a good one please!

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RachelRoyce · 12/04/2015 15:27

Adele Parks 'The state we're in' is the last one I read. I will not be reading anything else she has written, ever. Grrrrr. That's the 3rd book I've read this week with an absolutely shite ending Angry
I won't give anything away but the ending was just wrong. The two others I read just ended in a splat rather than a bang.

Is there no new, well written chick lit (oh how I hate that term)? I read good 'normal' fiction but I'm on holiday and I just want feel good happiness. I like Jill Mansell, Cathy Kelly and Fiona Walker. I have wifi and my kindle, best recommendations here please. Thanks!

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SouthWestmom · 17/04/2015 17:42

I hated that bloody Parkes book so much I started a thread about it. That's publisher's note - farkin hell I nearly photocopied the ending and stuck it to local lamp posts.

tobee · 17/04/2015 17:41

Hey op, what was the chick lit you did like, then people can suggest similar? I think it's a wide genre, like most genres.

RachelRoyce · 17/04/2015 17:40

Yes, that sounds about right to me. And also, yes to the not intellectually challenging too, the whole point of chicklit - for me anyway - is that it is easy, quickly read, enjoyable. If I want to think about or discuss a book e.g. at book club, I would never pick chicklit, it just doesn't have the substance.

Chicklit is like the sitcom of books, fun to watch but not going to challenge or educate. That doesn't make it a less worthwhile genre in my opinion though.

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Justahardworkingmum · 17/04/2015 17:39

Firstly, I just want to thank Prima and others on this thread for the Liane Moriarty recommendation - I've just read What Alice Forgot based on the recommendation above and thoroughly enjoyed it; I'll be reading The Husband's Secret next.

My view is that "chick lit" is written for its entertainment value rather than aiming to be profound commentary on the human condition, usually with a romance somewhere in the plot. Like any other genre of books it can be done well or badly. For example, I agree with others on Rachel's Holiday being excellent - well written, funny, great romance but actually dealing in a non- superficial way with a much darker issue (drug abuse). Marian Keyes was a recovering alcoholic when she wrote it, so knew what she was talking about.

In my view it takes considerable skill to write lighthearted entertainment well - look how many authors try and fail to imitate Georgette Heyer, whose books were largely treated as the chick lit of their time. Many well respected writers now are not ashamed to cite her as an influence.

AlternativeTentacles · 17/04/2015 17:39

Alternative - well good chick lit has big words like 'judgemental, ignorant, arrogant' and little ones like 'toss and pot

Each to their own.

It's like starting a post saying blah de blah

It was you saying you are sick of the crap endings and that you hate the term!

Thurlow · 17/04/2015 17:26

I just looked for a couple of definitions and found phrases like "genre fiction which addresses issues of modern womanhood, often humorously and lightheartedly" and "usually having a romantic or sentimental theme".

I'd say that sounds about right actually. It is romantic or sentimental fiction, and to add another level it is normally written not to be too intellectually challenging. Though I mean that in a good way.

RachelRoyce · 17/04/2015 17:23

Wicks - I feel your pain! It was diabolical! Angry Grin Angry

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RachelRoyce · 17/04/2015 17:22

YY bitter chocolate!
It's like starting a post saying 'Could you give me recommendations for a good chocolate cake please'
Poster coming on...'I don't eat chocolate cake and so have nothing to contribute to this thread. I do know you should be eating kale and quinoa and not chocolate cake. And stop asking for good recipes for Chocolate cake.'

Alternative - well good chick lit has big words like 'judgemental, ignorant, arrogant' and little ones like 'toss and pot'.

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WicksEnd · 17/04/2015 17:18

I knew this was going to be about Adele Parks, 'The state we're in'

I finished it last night and had it been a paper copy rather than kindle, I'd happily have torn it to shreds. The ending was so fucking shite I kept flicking in the hope of finding an 'alternative ending. Dire Angry

Liane moriarty is excellent, I've read a few Diane chamberlain which I've enjoyed.

AlternativeTentacles · 17/04/2015 17:14

Does that explain it alternative? Or do I need to use smaller words?

I don't know. What IS chicklit when it is at home?

BitterChocolate · 17/04/2015 17:08

It always me laugh that every thread there has ever been with 'chick lit' in the title inevitably attracts at least one or two posters seeking to boost their ego by sneering at what other people choose to read. Always, like night-time follows sunset. And they always recommend 'better' books in the sincere belief that anyone who reads chick lit has never read any other genre and needs to be educated. Grin

happygirl87 · 17/04/2015 17:08

I love Adele Parks' earlier stuff, Jane Green (esp the early stuff set in London before she moved to the states!) and Jennifer Weiner. Also like Marian Keyes as many have said upthread. The only thing is that these books do deal with issues like drug addiction, and depression, in a very real way that isn't found in some more typical "chick lit".

BitterChocolate · 17/04/2015 17:02

Jennifer Crusie is good, not all of hers, but most of them. I recommend Welcome to Temptation, Bet Me, Fast Women and Agnes and the Hitman. I also like quite a lot of Susan Elizabeth Phillip's books, especially Ain't she Sweet and First Lady.

Calia · 17/04/2015 17:01

I'd recommend Dorothy Koomson, I've read all of her books and the only one that I didn't enjoy was The Cupid Effect. Liane Moriarty's good too.

RachelRoyce · 17/04/2015 16:52

Oh ffs. I want recommendations for good chicklit. Like Jilly Cooper, like Jill Mansell.
Same as sometimes I want recommendations for good fiction authors like Christopher Brookmyer, Robert Galbraith, Terry Pratchett.n

I read widely, I don't read non-fiction as I don't enjoy it. I do enjoy good 'chicklit' - it's feel good escapism. However some of the Chicklit I've read recently has been dross. I don't want to read dross from any genre.

Does that explain it alternative? Or do I need to use smaller words?

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AlternativeTentacles · 17/04/2015 16:45

Whatever the fuck 'chicklit' actually is.

AlternativeTentacles · 17/04/2015 16:44

Yes of course. But if she is moaning about chicklit - perhaps chicklit is the issue?

RonaldMcDonald · 17/04/2015 16:44

I want to love these books but cannot. I like crime thrillers and mostly rl tales of daring deeds/war etc
Except for Jilly Cooper....I adore her

Thurlow · 17/04/2015 16:36

Did you know that Ian Rankin named Jilly Cooper's Rivals as one of his favourite books of all time?

If you haven't tried Jilly, OP, then get stuck in, she's amazing.

For good trashy chicklit (which can be achieved, there's a fine art to writing something like that) there's a Mills & Boon by India Grey, Craving the Forbidden, which might sound awful but I've reread several times because it's great fun and reads a lot more like standard chicklit than some terrible Mills & Boon.

And you do realise, Alternative, that people are capable of reading more than one kind of genre during their life? For all you know the OP might have worked her way through Dostoyevsky's entire back catalogue before deciding on something a little easier for a change.

slugseatlettuce · 17/04/2015 16:33

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TatTheCat · 17/04/2015 16:33

Lisa Jewell books are fantastic reads, try Ralphs Party or Before I Met You.

The Pursuit Of Happiness by Douglas Kennedy is another superb read, nothing to do with the film of the same name.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 17/04/2015 16:30

That's why I said not all men Wink

DuchessofMalfi · 17/04/2015 16:28

And my DH is more likely to read the Maeve Binchy than I am :o

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 17/04/2015 13:45

I can't speak for all men but I can't imagine my Dh saying 'Chuck us over that Maeve Binchy when you've finished with it, Dame.'Grin

tobee · 17/04/2015 13:27

Hmmm. Come on, don't be shy. It must be more than that. Actually, I'm probably hijacking thread.