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H is for Hawk - no spoilers please!

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TheEagle · 01/04/2015 08:43

Anyone read this book?

I'm about 5% into it according to Kindle and it's leaving me cold! Please tell me it gets better Hmm

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INickedAName · 22/04/2015 10:20

Dh trains birds of prey as well as keeps his own, (it feels weird to call him a falconer), I bought it after seeing the author do an interview on TV, he read the whole book, but didn't enjoy it as much as he thought it would. I think he thought it would have more about falconry itself and felt that the author repeated other falconry book authors a lot. Dh is a member of a couple of falconry forums and it's mixed reactions on there.

I haven't read it myself yet, I know enough about falconry to have a decent conversation about it and have been out with the birds but it's not something I'd say I enjoy, but I do find it fascinating how it's helped people with problems. Saying that, if dh didn't enjoy the book I doubt I would too, if I'm quarter through a book and not enjoying I'll take a break, if I feel the same when I go back I give up.

OnlyLovers · 22/04/2015 09:58

I agree, hackmum. Why read a memoir if you don't like 'me me me'? Confused

And I have to concur as well that this one is NOT all that 'me me me'. I think she writes very movingly about other people (her friend who offers her the kestrel, is it? Sparrowhawk? comes across very vividly.) And she is very moving and insightful about her hawk too.

BestIsWest · 21/04/2015 21:11

I loved it from the first page. The bird bits were the best bits though.

hackmum · 21/04/2015 18:50

Memoirs are inevitably "me me me", aren't they? I mean, what else are they going to be about?

This one had a lot about TH White so actually less "me me me" than most.

Noideaatall · 17/04/2015 14:03

agree holmessweetholmes. I found it hard going because it seemed very me me me.

Mehitabel6 · 13/04/2015 07:12

I finished it but didn't enjoy it. I felt so sorry for the bird and wished it could have gone free. She wasn't in a fit mental state to have one, or living in the right sort of place. I think it ought to be much more strictly regulated.

crimsonh · 13/04/2015 07:05

I agree with OnlyLovers
I loved it - listened to it on Audible and read by the author. The best book so far read by the author of few I tried and all previous one's were terrible narrators.

To me it is book about grief. Add loneliness and depression.
I also learned a lot about falconry from it - I like nature and am into bird watching.
I am hoping she is going to write more because she writhes in style and pace I enjoy a lot.

AgentProvocateur · 12/04/2015 22:14

I was thinking of buying this earlier. Glad I didn't!

holmessweetholmes · 12/04/2015 22:11

I just read it. Very disappointing. The reviews raved about it, but I just found it tedious and self - obsessed!

guilianna · 01/04/2015 14:10

I didn't fancy this one either, so reassured I haven't missed much

IndridCold · 01/04/2015 14:05

I did soldier on with it but I can't really say I enjoyed it as much as I had hoped. It doesn't get any better.

magimedi · 01/04/2015 13:16

LadyG - You can download a 'sample' of most books on Kindle for free. It's usually the first 20 pages or so.

dotty2 · 01/04/2015 12:32

Ah! The best reason, then...

TheEagle · 01/04/2015 12:20

Oh don't be sorry dotty, it's just cause I'm heavily pregnant with twins!

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dotty2 · 01/04/2015 12:17

PS - sorry to hear about the hospital appointments, Eagle. I agree Kindles are great for that kind of hanging around.

OnlyLovers · 01/04/2015 12:16

I loved it, but I loved it from the word go so can't tell you that it 'gets better'.

I loved the falconry itself and the discussions of its language and history, and find the way she finds succour in her hawk and its training hugely moving.

I think the discussion of The Goshawk is fascinating both as an insight into the book and its author, and in the way Macdonald links it to her own experience of both hawk-training and life.

The nature-writing aspect is beautiful.

Her unflinching writing about her own state of mind is breathtaking.

It's one of my favourite books for ages. I'd say carry on, but obviously I'm not impartial. Grin

dotty2 · 01/04/2015 12:12

LadyGregory - I love my kindle because I travel quite a lot (for work, but am freelance so don't feel obliged to work on trains!) and used to hate finishing my book on the way into London, say, and having nothing to read on the way home (or only what a small WH Smith could offer me). However, to answer your question, I do read physical books as well, and love a good browse in a bookshop - and I think I am a lot less adventurous when choosing things on my kindle because I tend to stick to authors I know, or books I've seen reviewed - whereas when browsing I am a bit more eclectic, attracted by intriguing covers/blurb etc. I do think the trend for e-readers is probably narrowing the book market still further, and that's a shame.

TheEagle · 01/04/2015 12:08

I did indeed think I was buying a novel but that was more my haste rather than not being able to see what the book was about.

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LadyGregory · 01/04/2015 12:05

Gotcha. I suppose I was wondering if the fact that you (I think?) thought you were buying a novel rather than a memoir was something more liable to happen to a Kindle book buyer, because less information was available.

TheEagle · 01/04/2015 11:52

I had to stop buying physical books because we literally don't have the space for one more book.

My Kindle goes everywhere with me and it's particularly helpful at the moment because I have a lot of hospital appointments with a lot of waiting around!

Sometimes I'll go into the bookshop and browse the physical book before buying. You can often read an extract from a book in the Kindle store on Amazon and you can read and see other reviews.

Amazon will also recommend books to you based on previous purchases.

Sometimes (like this time!) I just purchase the book without checking up about it - I think I was drawn by the 4.5 star (out of 5) reviews and the note about the award it had won.

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LadyGregory · 01/04/2015 11:48

I don't have a kindle and only ever read physical books bought from physical shops, so this interests me. How do you decide whether you like the look of an e-Book? What is the equivalent of browsing in a shop, looking at covers, familiar author names, reading blurbs, flicking through to get a sense of the prose? Can you read an extract before you buy?

TheEagle · 01/04/2015 11:40

I should probably have done a little more research before buying this book, I didn't know it was a memoir Blush I'm blaming baby brain, I usually do my homework better before I buy a book.

I think I will come back to this book but for now it's back to the Kindle store.

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LadyGregory · 01/04/2015 11:19

I liked it and found her prose very arresting - knowing nothing about falconry apart from Kes and a couple of Antonia Forest novels. And the TH White stuff was interestingly disturbing.

Not sure what you mean by 'spoilers', OP, given that as a memoir, it's not likely to suddenly perform any strange plot twists! But my only real quibble was the final fifth, which I thought became slightly repetitive on grief and falconry, and could have used a tighter edit. I think if you're not liking it by now, the rest of the book is unlikely to alter your opinion.

DuchessofMalfi · 01/04/2015 11:18

I listened to the audiobook read by the author. I loved it including the references back to T H White's original. But then I am fascinated by falconry.

Can see it wouldn't appeal to everyone though.

dotty2 · 01/04/2015 11:11

I am about 60% of the way through now, and know nothing about falconry except what I remember from Kes!

I like her prose and quite like the literary criticism elements - plus how she interweaves her story with White's. But to be honest, I am plodding on with it more because I think it's good, than because I am loving it, if that distinction makes sense?

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