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GoT theories - Spoilers

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ZombieBelle · 31/01/2014 09:35

Started this off the back of the chat thread, where we didn't want to disclose spoilers for those that have only watched the series.

What do you think happens?

Poor Jon Snow. Stabbed... to death? I think so, but Melisandra is at the wall. he'll be brought back. His vows to the watch ended since he died. I have a sneaky feeling he will be on the Iron throne due to his parentage.
(Rhaegar and Ned Starks sister (can't remember her name)

I really see Dany going the way of Mad King Aerys. I think someone will put an end to her the way Jaime did Aerys, possibly Tyrion. There is a lot of indication of the bond between the 2 brothers, i think both of them will be "kingslayers"

A big 'un - Eddard Stark, is he dead? I've heard theories that a faceless one took his place. Varys seems to be in control of a lot more than he appears (and he appears to be in control of a lot) I have a sneaking suspicion that these theories are right and he and Arya will meet up.

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TheNightIsDark · 03/02/2014 12:28

Cat is an awful character. Absolutely awful. Cannot find one redeeming quality in her. Perhaps because of how she treated Jon though!

HomeIsWhereTheHeartIs · 03/02/2014 04:25

I'm scared that I like Jon too much, which means he will surely die. And I want Jamie to end up with Brienne.
That's about all I can remember. Will need to re-read before the next one is out >in ten years time

HarpyFishwifeTwat · 03/02/2014 03:20

I'd love to see Tyrion on the throne, although I've always had a soft spot for Jamie despite his incest and throwing small children from high windows.

ZombieBelle · 02/02/2014 22:30

I really want Margaery Tyrell on the throne ;)

TBH, i think it will be Jon in the end, I don't think Dany will make it.

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miserywaterfall · 02/02/2014 12:21

Ooooh true ZombieBelle (love your username btw!) I really want good things for Jon, even though he's a bit of a whiny character.

Who do you all want to see end up on the Iron throne?

I am a sucker for that Jon and Dany theory, despite it meaning incest, haha! In Cersei's prophecy it's said a 'younger more beautiful queen' will cast her down, and a lot of people take that to be Margaery Tyrell, but it would be awesome for it to be Dany!

ZombieBelle · 02/02/2014 10:20

it would make sense if he died Misery, as then he would be released from the Black Watch.

Interesting one about Jaime, think you could be right. I think it would be fitting as well.

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miserywaterfall · 01/02/2014 15:03

Awesome thread, but it makes me realise I really need to reread A Dance With Dragons as I am struggling to remember a lot of it...!

I think Jaime will be the one to kill Cersei... no idea why or how, but she is so convinced that Tyrion is going to be the valonqar (younger brother) who kills her.

I'm not convinced that Aegon is the real Aegon but I kinda want him to be. I love the Targs and would like to see them back on the Throne.

I don't believe Jon Snow is dead, he has much more story ahead of him, but I like the idea that actually he does die from his wounds (they sure went to town on him!) and that Melisandre brings him back!

ZombieBelle · 01/02/2014 06:56

oh I love Arrested Development. will go have a look!

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Sheldonswhiteboard · 01/02/2014 00:13

Have never liked Cat, dead or undead, actually thought Eddard was a bit of a naive holier than thou prat as well. The thought of Jon and Dany getting it on makes my teeth itch. I like the Lannisters for the comedic, dysfunctional mess that they are (ignoring the incest and pushing small children out of tower windows)

I think Jaime will sacrifice himself to save Brienne, there's that dream sequence he has where he is underground- I have to re-read and get my head around it.

If anyone also likes Arrested Development there is a great site called Arrested Westros where they take screencaps from GoT and add dialogue from AD, some very funny results.

ZombieBelle · 31/01/2014 22:13

I think it would make sense for Jon and Dany to get together, the targaryans are known for their incest, whilst the Lannisters are condemned for it... weird.

Jon is not one of my favourite characters (though loved Ygritte sob) but he is like a mini Eddard in some ways, and think he would make a good king.

Does anyone else hate Cat with a passion, well stoneheart now?

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MothershipG · 31/01/2014 21:46

It's a while since I read them but I was thinking that Dany and Jon would get together?

Also a friend in my book group works for Harper Collins and has met GRRM several times and reassured me that he is in good health!

Leaningtoweroflisa · 31/01/2014 21:40

Re-reading for the umpteenth time at the mo. even so, scuse spelling.

Read a lot about various theories about Jon being the prince that is promised, azor azai (or something!). Likewise Jon and dany are going to meet and fall in love (the blue flower blooming in the wall of ice in Danny's house of the undying visions). According to the Internet anyhow...

There is too much emphasis on how lightbringer is made in the legend - pushing it through his wife's heart to temper it - and how stannis'sword is a fake. I wonder if g r r Martin will be mean enough to give the fans what they want (Jon alive and getting it on with his twue wuv dany) and then make him have to make the same choice of killing dany to forge the new lightbringer?

I needs the winds of winter. Although recent South Park and Ben and holly parodies have sullied the tv series a little, I am v glad I will get my fan girl fix soon...

(Wanders off singing wiener, wiener wiener to the theme tune)

Fuck me I have become such a nerd in middle age.

Sheldonswhiteboard · 31/01/2014 21:28

Ooh a sullied thread, dons boiled leather and wades in....

Valonquar - I think that translates as little brother, obvious candidates are Jaime as the younger twin or Tyrion but could just be a younger brother in another house, maybe Rickon who is AWOL in Skagos, I think at the moment? I think Cersei said of Jaime, " we came into this world together we will leave it together", maybe they will kill each other.

There is also a theory that the twins are secret Targs due to incest and Cersei's seeming fascination with fire but I'm not convinced of it.

AryaOfHouseSnark · 31/01/2014 19:33

Oh yes I know, I didn't explain myself very well.
I did a quick wiki search, and leaf the child of the forrest said "they killed him long ago" in regards to Coldhands (I knew it was something along those lines)
Obviously the children of the Forrest live for hundreds of years and time is different to them, so a long time ago to them would mean a long long time ago. Which means Benjen wouldn't be a likely candidate as he would only be dead a few years if that. Unless of course they mean a long time ago in human years in which case it is most likely him Grin

ZombieBelle · 31/01/2014 19:00

arya Benjen is dead, he's technically a white walker, but a helpful one (if he is indeed coldhands)

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BigW · 31/01/2014 15:07

my memory is a touch sketchy too, but I love hearing these theories. Tyrion is my favourite character and I would like to see him on the iron throne. I wondered whether he would team up with Dany along with Arya or Jon and retake Westeros.

AryaOfHouseSnark · 31/01/2014 14:58

But yes, he is a big contender, either him or The nights king.

AryaOfHouseSnark · 31/01/2014 14:57

I don't know about Benjen being cold hands, I did think so but then Leaf said that Coldhands had been dead for a very long time, or he was very old ( will have to reread )which by their standards should be older then Benjen is iykwim.

ZombieBelle · 31/01/2014 14:29

I too, think Benjen is coldhands, there's too much humanity in him for him to be a non-character IYKWIM.

Aegon, hmm, i was quite annoyed that they sprung him on us. I think he will be a bit of a non issue tbh. He will get killed (bets money on it)

Dorne has a lot to play for. They will definitely have a part to play in the end.

I am starting to think that Westeros might be divided again. It seems like it worked better that way, then having 1 king in KL

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BeyondTheLimitsOfAcceptability · 31/01/2014 13:59

I need a reread, but I remember thinking benjen was coldhands, so youre not completely loopy Grin or I am too?

Apart from that, I like all of the OP theories and hope they could be right. But then we all know what grrm is like...

mimbleandlittlemy · 31/01/2014 13:29

I've sort of gone along thinking Benjen is Cold Hands (or whatever he is called), or am I delusional?

Trills · 31/01/2014 13:14

I would like it if it turned out that the Targaryens have no magical connection with dragons, it's just that they used to know the secrets of how to train them (and nobody had ever put those dragon eggs in a big fire before).

Squirrelsmum · 31/01/2014 13:04

It has been a while since I read the books so my memory is a little sketchy, but I think the wildlings play a big part in Jon Snow taking over the north. I see him becoming a formidable figure but George RR likes to kill his characters off so who knows. But he is definitely first in line for the throne so whether the giant pulls him out of the throng or he is brought back from the dead by the woman in red. So many people to potentially back him.
Dany is losing the plot and I can't see her making it back with dragons in tow, but then if Tyrion takes her side, he is often underestimated.
I remember reading that Cersie was being taken to be executed, did that actually happen?
Valonqar is high valerian for little brother, I can't remember the context but does the Bran Stark fit? Where does he come into it again?

AryaOfHouseSnark · 31/01/2014 12:59

I think Aegon is a fake, a Blackfyre so still blood of the dragon, just not a targ. I don't think he knows though, I think he believes he is Aegon.
I hope we find out what happened to Benjen in the next book, he has been mentioned too many times to just disappear altogether.
GRRM has said we will got far north, to the land of always winter in the next book, hopefully we will meet him there, even if it is just from Brans POV, via a tree.

TheNightIsDark · 31/01/2014 12:58

Marking place. On second rereading of the series and praying George R R Martin doesn't pop his clogs before finishing Confused

I want Tyrion on the iron throne. I'm warming to Sansa a bit but she's still meh compared to Arya.