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GoT theories - Spoilers

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ZombieBelle · 31/01/2014 09:35

Started this off the back of the chat thread, where we didn't want to disclose spoilers for those that have only watched the series.

What do you think happens?

Poor Jon Snow. Stabbed... to death? I think so, but Melisandra is at the wall. he'll be brought back. His vows to the watch ended since he died. I have a sneaky feeling he will be on the Iron throne due to his parentage.
(Rhaegar and Ned Starks sister (can't remember her name)

I really see Dany going the way of Mad King Aerys. I think someone will put an end to her the way Jaime did Aerys, possibly Tyrion. There is a lot of indication of the bond between the 2 brothers, i think both of them will be "kingslayers"

A big 'un - Eddard Stark, is he dead? I've heard theories that a faceless one took his place. Varys seems to be in control of a lot more than he appears (and he appears to be in control of a lot) I have a sneaking suspicion that these theories are right and he and Arya will meet up.

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expatinscotland · 08/02/2014 16:29

Robert still has plenty of bastards alive. He had 16 in the books.

How can Sansa legally marry Harry?

Book is out 2015.

Badvoc · 08/02/2014 16:27

Oh, of course he was!
It's been a while since I read the books...
Yes.
Stannis and then renly would have made sense wouldn't it?

AintNobodyHereButUsKittens · 08/02/2014 16:26

I think Ned was Team Stannis before his death,and the "revelation" that Robert had an illegitimate son would not have changed that. He was very loyal to Robert, so would never have supported a Tagaryan claimant as that would have been an acknowledgment that Robert's Rebellion was wrong. And he had strong feelings on illegitimacy, so wouldn't support Gendry.

Badvoc · 08/02/2014 16:20

Who would Ned have favoured do you think?
Not Jon snow...he let him join the nights watch!
Gendry?

Badvoc · 08/02/2014 16:18

Kate...
When you play the game of thrones you either win.....or you die.
:)

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KateSMumsnet · 08/02/2014 16:13

Ah yeah I hadn't thought about the illegitimate thing, good point. Does Gendry know who his father was? He seems to be a bit of a loose end atm, the Brotherhood without Banner bores me slightly.

AintNobodyHereButUsKittens · 08/02/2014 16:09

And Stannis tempted Jon Snow with legitimating him as Ned's son (even though we all think he wasn't) - and hence making him heir to Winterfell.

I hope Zombie Cat gets to find out that Jon wasn't actually Ned's son before she gets incinerated/decapitated/whatever.

TripTuckerInMyStocking · 08/02/2014 15:59

Yeah as Rhaegar's son, Aegon has the stronger claim than Dany, Rhaegar's sister. It is possible Rhaegar secretly married Lyanna, as Targaryens were not only known for marrying their sisters they sometimes had more than one wife.
I suppose the illegitinacy of certain claimants could be turned into legitimancy, after all, Ramsey the asshat wanted to be made illegitimate (hence killing off Roose's trueborn sons). It wasn't that Roose wasn't able to he just didn't want to as he didn't like Ramsey. A bit like Stalin complaining about Hitler's concentration camps Hmm

Sheldonswhiteboard · 08/02/2014 14:53

Gendry is illegitimate though so I suspect Stannis would have a greater claim.
Jon Snow - illegitimate as well (unless there was a secret marriage and R + L = J I still think it's too obvious).
I think Aegon currently has the greatest claim but is he for real?
Dany, no if Aegon is the real deal

At the end of the day I suspect might will out, so at this point who knows!

I'd love Sansa to off Littlefinger, maybe she is the younger more beautiful queen who will replace Cersei. I just want GRRM to get the rest of the books written!

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KateSMumsnet · 08/02/2014 14:38

Of course, having a claim to the throne doesn't actually mean anything, it's going to be about who has the most power, and manages to kill Littlefinger and befriend Varys. C'mon Sansa!

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KateSMumsnet · 08/02/2014 14:33

That's the badger. So the people with the best claim to the Iron Throne are:

Ageon - Targaryen descent but a bit of a prick IMO
Gendry - trueborn son of Robert Baratheon - would his claim would be stronger than Stannis'?
Jon Snow - if we accept the Lyanna/Rhaegar theory, but bound to the Black Watch until DEATH
Daenarys - Targargen and BAMF

Am I missing anyone? Interestingly, these are all characters that the Lannisters/Freys/Baratheons either don't know or don't really care about.

Badvoc · 08/02/2014 14:11

Daenerys is lovely :)
If he kills jon off I will be deeply unhappy.
Deeply.

Sheldonswhiteboard · 08/02/2014 13:43

Supposedly Aegon. It was believed he was killed in the sack of Kings Landing but the theory is that another body was presented to Robert and Varys smuggled the real Aegon away.

If genuine would bugger up Danys plans as he is older then her.

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KateSMumsnet · 08/02/2014 13:01

Noooo I don't want Dany to end up a bad mad Targ But it would be classic GRRM. And it definitely wouldn't be a populist ending Sad

I totally have Danearys down on my potential baby name list. Thankfully DP is sensible and will stop me calling our future children Daenarys Lyra even though that would be a brilliant name

It's ages since I read the books, who's the dude who was on the boat with Tyrion who is actually a Targ? I think he's going to turn out to be a rum one.

I think the Martells are really interesting, especially the Sand Snakes. I want to see them developed more in the future books, whenever they arrive

AryaOfHouseSnark · 07/02/2014 21:22

I luff little finger in Medieval land. bad lip reading got.

TripTuckerInMyStocking · 07/02/2014 13:48

Poor Loras as well :(

miserywaterfall · 07/02/2014 13:19

Agreed there Trip Stannis and Renly should have put their crap aside and worked together. Poor Renly

TripTuckerInMyStocking · 07/02/2014 13:07

I kind of hope that Stannis isn't dead, just because it would be too awful Ramsey killing him because he is such an evil fucker.
But you have to admit Renly and Stannis almost deserve their fates for being too hard headed to work together. Stannis WAS Robert's rightful heir and the chances are Shireen would never inherit the throne, making Renly's Stannis's heir. IF they worked together, they could have taken the Iron Throne from Cersei and Robb would have been content to let him and returned North.

miserywaterfall · 07/02/2014 12:54

Ooooh I haven't read it either, might have a look for it.

Arya he was awesome in The Wire Grin

AryaOfHouseSnark · 07/02/2014 12:16

I loved Aiden Gillen in the wire, I have a bit of a crush on him too.
I haven't read The Princess and the Queen yet, not long finished the hedge knight. It's in the same series isn't it ?

SofaKing · 07/02/2014 12:12

Has anyone read 'The Princess and the Queen', from the Dangerous Women anthology?

It is about the first Dance of Dragons where the Princess, the named heir, isn't informed by her stepmother of her father's death because her stepmother wants her own son to be King.

The body count, both human and dragon, is horrific, and it has served to convince me the last thing we want is more Targeryens on the throne!

Ohwhatfuckeryisthis · 07/02/2014 12:12

I'm not sure arya, I got internal error. He looks everywhere. (And keeps his online persona hidden from potential stalkers his mum)
Sheldon I like your Dany theory. And your Littlefinger idea although I have tiny crushette on the actor

jammietart · 07/02/2014 12:00

Right. Of course. Thanks

Trills · 07/02/2014 11:34

People just can't be bothered to write Targaryens. (mad dead dragon king and family)

jammietart · 07/02/2014 11:22

Help! Targs? i really can remember who/what they are. can somebidy remind me?

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