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AIBU to be so angry to have just found out that 'Game Of Thrones' has not been completed yet?

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PacificDogwood · 15/09/2013 15:21

Well, am I?

So I worked myself through all 5 books (7 if you coung that 2 of them come in 2 parts) and only then to I find out that the next installment won't be fecking published until 2015 ShockAngry!
I mean, I ask you!!

Sad

Somebody could've warned me....

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ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 15/09/2013 21:04

Ah yes, and Edmure is Catelyn's brother?

Give us the John theory.

I've seen snippets of the dragon having three heads being significant, ie three dragons and three people to ride the dragons. One being Dany, another being Jon.

PacificDogwood · 15/09/2013 21:04

Do you know about the Rhaegar+Lyanna=Jon theory?

Noooo, pray tell!

I thought he's Ned Stark's and some unknown woman's bastard?

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MarianneEnjolras · 15/09/2013 21:00

Blackfish is Brynden Tully (Catelyn's uncle). He was holding Riverrun while it was under seige after the Red Wedding but escaped when Riverrun surrended to Jaime.

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 15/09/2013 20:58

I think I must read with my eyes shut - a contradiction in terms I know! I completely missed the bit about Dondarrion, although I remember the whole zombie Catelyn bit.

Oh blimey, who the chuff is the Blackfish?

MarianneEnjolras · 15/09/2013 20:58

I wish I could remember stuff for my OU course as well as I can retain this kind of stuff! Grin

I think The Red God (R'hollor) is some up and coming power. Melisandre is preaching about him in Westeros, but at the same time there is another Red Priest heading towards Danaerys with one of Theon's uncles. I think the "Song of Ice and Fire" may come down to a battle between the red god and the White Walkers.

Or it will be between Danaerys and Jon Snow.

Do you know about the Rhaegar+Lyanna=Jon theory?

PacificDogwood · 15/09/2013 20:51

And I am proper scared of Melisandre - what is her game? V spooky.

Marianne, you are just a font of knowledge!
How do you remember it all?
You are of course right about Dondarrion.
I like the Blackfish too - I bet he is going to Save The Day for somebody at some point.

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PacificDogwood · 15/09/2013 20:49

Oh, and Jon Snow - is it wrong to be besotted with a 17 year old? Blush
The Jon Snow of the books - the TV one is not quite hard enough or something. He's just not quite like the Jon Snow in my head.

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PacificDogwood · 15/09/2013 20:48

I feel sorry for Sansa - I think she needs to lurk on the FWR boards a bit and Grow a Spine.

Poor Rickon I feel sorry for - he was only a baby when it all kicked off.

Hm, Dondarrion? Him and his crew are quite colourful, it'd be good if they came back.

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MarianneEnjolras · 15/09/2013 20:48

Dondarrion is dead so I don't think he will reappear. He gave the last of his "life force" to Catelyn.

I hope the Brotherhood without Banners makes another appearance. I really want the Blackfish to join them and rescue Edmure Tully, his wife and baby from the Lannisters.

I also hope Sansa starts to gain a bit of power instead of just being a pawn in other people's games.

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 15/09/2013 20:44

Right, thank you for that Marianne, that makes sense now. I wondered why a singer was trying to smuggle out Arya/Jeyne.

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 15/09/2013 20:39

Yes, I have a hankering for all the Stark direwolves to be back together too.

I couldn't give two shits about Sansa, Bran or Rickon, but Jon Snow and Arya MUST live.

Do you think Dondarrion (I think that was his name) and his crew will appear in the books again?

MarianneEnjolras · 15/09/2013 20:38

Melisandre switched Mance with the Rattleshirt (another wilding) and burnt fake-Mance. This is because Rattleshirt was a nasty bastard but Mance is useful (as a King - king's blood is important etc).

Real Mance then went to Winterfell in disguise (as Abel the Bard) to rescue fake-Arya (really Jeyne Poole - Sansa's friend who we haven't seen since the first book).

Bran will become a tree like Bloodraven if you ask me. Grin

PacificDogwood · 15/09/2013 20:31

Nope.

Some dead people seem to be deader than others Confused - I am alright with magic and dragons and shit, but undead dead... And they don't sound like they'd look attractive

I love Braavos and the Faceless Men although I want Arya to find love and life and happiness. I feel all maternal towards her.

And I want all the direworlves to be reunited. Well, all the Stark direwolves.

What's going to happen to Brandon?

What about Samwell? Will he ever become a Maester?

I could go on with questions.
I accept that GRRM is Not My Bitch, but pulling a Misery sounds more and more attractive the more I think about it... GrinWink[not really]

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ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 15/09/2013 20:23

Pmsl at doing a Misery on GRRM.

I've got a third left to read of the last published book and I have to say I find the whole Dany and Merreen situation complicated and a bit boring. I just can't seem to remember all of the names of the characters there.

The whole Mance Rayder not really being dead is confusing me too. I remember when he was supposedly burnt, and there was some sort of switcharoo. But that's about it. Can anyone explain?

dreamingbohemian · 15/09/2013 20:09

Ooooh thanks for the Discworld help Smile

PacificDogwood · 15/09/2013 19:59

Yes, I've been missing Benjen as well.

Thanks for the summary, Marianne.
I suppose you're right when one accepts a throne won in conquest is justly won.

I love how the whole thing is of course fiction with some magic and dragons thrown in but the High Middle Ages are so well researched and depicted.
I'd've been some poor wench whose life would've been totally disposable at the whim of a Lord.

So, Aegon is modelled on William the Concquerer, eh?

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MarianneEnjolras · 15/09/2013 19:58

Yes poor Loras is devastated by Renly's death. In the TV show they show Loras sleeping around which is completely out of character as Canidae said, Loras said of Renly that "When the sun has set, no candle can replace it." Sad

RatHammock · 15/09/2013 19:56

Oh yes, did he appear at Winterfell while King Robert was there? Marianne, I am in awe at your knowledge of these books. Smile

So was it intimated in the books that Renly was having a relationship with Loras Tyrell?

MarianneEnjolras · 15/09/2013 19:55

And Robert was given the throne because his grandmother was a Targaryen princess (a daughter of Egg/Aegon from the Dunk and Egg stories) so he had the strongest claim.

Sorry, my inner geek is showing isn't it?

MarianneEnjolras · 15/09/2013 19:53

Benjen isn't a new character. He was in the first book but has mysteriously vanished while ranging beyond the wall.

MarianneEnjolras · 15/09/2013 19:52

Jaime was named to the Kings Guard by Aerys because Aerys was annoyed with Tywin Lannister and so deprived him of his heir. Tywin is mightly pissed about that.

Rhaegar (heir to the throne) then kidnapped Lyanna Stark (Ned's sister and Robert's betrothed). Ned's father and older brother travelled to Kings Landing to petition Aerys to intervene, but the King roasted them alive instead and then demanded Robert and Ned's heads. Instead, Robert and Ned rebelled against the throne. Robert defeated Rhaegar in battle and Tywin Lannister sacked Kings Landing (but only once he could be sure to be on the winning side). Aerys was going to burn Kings Landing to the ground and demanded Jaime kill his father, which Jaime wasn't going to do and he killed Aerys to stop him destroying the city.

But as far as history is concerned, a throne won in battle by conquest is fairly won is it not? Otherwise, Aegon the Conquerer (or IRL William the Conquerer would not have any claim to the throne).

RatHammock · 15/09/2013 19:48

I did actually end up feeling sorry for Cersei by the end of the last book. And yy to Jaime looking good. Grin

I wonder if Benjen Stark is ever going to make an appearance? He sounds like he'd be an interesting chap, though perhaps introducing new characters is not really what this series needs!

PacificDogwood · 15/09/2013 19:33

Oh, the torture scenes... I skipped over those, Theon's and the 'Blue Bard's', or whatever his name was. Flaying sounds like one of those particularly evil inventions that does not make you proud to be part of the Human Race Envy

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KateCroydon · 15/09/2013 18:57

@RatHammock,

Stuff of nightmares I agree. Theon's a fool, but he didn't deserve that.

Canidae · 15/09/2013 18:44

Wanring. May be spoilers.

I Love Jaime!

Renly being gay was in the books but it was subtle. I remember Jaime saying something to Loras about 'shoving his sword so deep that even Renly won't find it'.

And Loras' reaction to Renly's death and when talking to Tyrion about marriage Loras says 'When the sun has set, no candle can replace it.'

Oberyn also refers to Loras as Renly's little rose.

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