The Talisman Ring: Georgette Heyer book club no. 9

V v tempting.

How could I even think of it? (Wink)

So do I. (Names).

Mind you, could have ended up with Nugent Crosby Basil.

Have created Spanish Bride thread as couldn't see anyone else had..

Technophobe on phone so can't attach but it's there under adult fiction.

Knock Knock,

Is anyone still there?

Names in the Anglo French Dillon family, from about 1750: catholics whose great great grandfather was outlawed after fighting for James ll, and whose great uncle was ennobled by Louis 14.

Charles Henry Arthur George, William Edward ; girls Charlotte Frances Lucie, Henrietta-Lucy. H-L was born in 1770, married M de Gouvernet and they had Humbert, Seraphine, Alix,(Charlotte) Cecile and Aymar.

DH likes Dominic but prefers Alexander (is there a GH Alexander? Can't think of one though it wouldn't be unlikely). Luckily we are having a girl so no divorce! GH girls' names are generally a bit frilly/uber posh for my taste though of course they suit their characters perfectly

FABULOUS! DH vetoed. He has never been so close to divorce, what with the pgy hormones.

Maybe this is why I really like the name Dominic (nn Devil? )

Erm, and DS2 is a GH hero too... One of the lesser known books though.

As it happens, I have a DS Adam after Captain Deveril (swoon) DH doesn't know that's why I was so keen on it and am ttc#3.

So if I'm successful I'll be starting a thread asking for GH name lists to choose from without DH's input discuss as a family.

All fascinating re names. I think often they feel odd to us (I am thinking of Sir Gareth) but no doubt GH researched as. well as always.

To the Corinthian!

It was the period when surnames became first names. So I find Waldo completely believable.

Justin I sort of accept because he has French ancestry, I think.

Gothicisation might mean that poor old Tristram got landed, but not sure about the rest.

Eustace ie Stacy I think of as later, but quite likely wrongly.

The 18c nobs' tombs round us all have perfectly normal names, except for the first eg , ie the surname turned into a Christian name, obv following the bringing of property into the family.

Got home at last. Behind Closed Doors.

What was the Richard ill thread? Have been searching for its lovely bones, but failed to find it. Was influenced far too young by Josephine Try.

Can I just check if we are starting Spanish Bride or The Corinthian tomorrow? I'm not sure whether Spanish Bride comes under the histories-that-we're-not-doing or if it counts as a 'romance'.

I don't think Sir tristam is that bitter about women just the drama queen type which eustacie obviously is at beginning, I think he is really quite witty especially when Sarah pretends to be the abigail /ludovic and gets arrested and he keeps insisting its a romantic tryst, I love the book and have been r-reading but last two weeks been a bit mental so though i normally read for good 30 minutes before bed, i have been falling asleep almost before getting to bed....... what a romantic I am clearly not up to this daring-do!

I certainly think Sir Tristam is the long term man for a relationship

like the idea of Heyer name selection discussion, those from poor humbler backgrounds names like Mary Kate Jenny etc

I do enjoy the almost unstated movement of Sir Tristram towards humanity, from cynicism and bitterness about women to his amusement that he will never be allowed to forget the disappointment of his youth at the end. Re reading it, I love him drawing the pictures in Miss Thane 's (I can't think of her as Sarah) book and the pained expression when she confuses her terms. He is obviously cultured and witty. I have a lot of hope for them as a couple, as I do on fourth rereading for Ludovic and Eustacie, as he has sobered down and has the maturity to cope.

It is one of the few books where the heroine has a sensible name... even more usual than Judith and more sensible than Sophie. Not many others, bowing to the Horatias and Leonie of this thread. Harriet is by no means a heroine until she comes to unfortunate maturity; Jenny, whom I love, is clearly supposed to have a dissenter type name, I often wondered by GH called her Jenny, rather than one of the more obvious dissenter names. Perhaps she found an equivalent? Anyone know?

Perhaps we should have a short digression into GH's names? I like Theophania and can now bear Tiffany as a nn as I get that it comes from there... Arabella, Sophie, Cecilia, fine, Leonie of course, although I did think that there were others that did the dual male/female that she could have chosen that were prettier in the final analysis; never been stuck on Prudence or Patience myself.

Other views?

Am just reading Amanda Vickery's book on the Georgians - can't recall title - basically going from about the Glorious Revolution to about Hazlitt. Thoroughly recommend, gripping but rigorous study.

Because she is french.

But why is Eustacie sooo stupid? And no emotional intelligence at all. Not selfish, like Lavinia (is it, or Letitia, in The Black Moth) but nothing compared to Horry, Leonie, Arabella etc.