Regency Buck: Georgette Heyer Book Club Part 4

It is, afaik. I haven't read it so I'll need to get going if that's the decision.

Is Powder and Patch the Philip one?

I'll read what I'm told to read. Kindle awaits ...

Not sure, I think I may have stamped my pretty foot and flounced by then...

Are we skipping Powder and Patch then?

I'm ploughing through Masqueraders at the moment as it's a new one for me but it's hard going!

BCBG, why did he veto Leonie? I'd say that was less unusual than Venetia.

Just found this thread I was one of the mad participants in the GH thread years ago which is now in Mumsnet Classics, I think. My FAVOURITE thread if anyone wants to resurrect ....I was quite mad, former Barque of Frailty with a tendency to say Lawks if I recall ...anyway I am *here8 purely to confess that I named DD1 Venetia and DD2 Arabella....... (and I wanted Leonie but DH said no ) x

Finished I A - what are we reading next? Is it Masqueraders?

Worth in Regency Buck is not one of Heyer's most successful masterful types, is he? Much better in Infamous Army. I look forward to the curling of livers when Oliver Carleton is the subject of discussion!

Kelly's book on Brummell most enjoyable - apart from the graphic descriptions of the results of mercury treatment. Had to skip past that bit sharpish.

I have swooned in extreme heat, Fwiw. I was in a particularly incensey Anglo-Catholic church service and slumped dramatically on to my vicar friend. Fortunately he wasn't actually taking the service at the time.

Trying to think of other recurrent scenes. In a corpus of however many books over however many years it's perhaps inevitable, and we should maybe be impressed at how few repeats there are...

And after Judith's first trip to the Pavilion she's light headed from the heat and has a terrible headache. So the heat is part of it and his utter revoltingness is as well.

IShall, my Brummell book was £3 secondhand on Amazon and it looks brand new.

I don't think Damerel has a nickname for Venetia, at least not a disparaging one in the way that Clorinda is for Judith. They quote a few bits of poetry/Shakespeare to each other in that scene but afair, that's it.

The swooning when Prinny tries to kiss her is definitely Judith at the Brighton Pavillion but I think Prinny blamed it on the heat to justify it to Worth and Worth agreed because it wouldn't have been prudent to lay any blame at Prinny's door, regardless of the fact he knew the truth. The Pavillion was notoriously over heated because of Prinny's fear of illness and the line is something about For the first time in her life Judith quietly fainted away so she isn't a fainter in normal circumstances.

Julia is more of the type to be a swooning miss as she's such a drama queen but in the main I don't think GH really wrote any heroines who were prone to falling into distempered freaks.

Julia fainting when she sees Adam and Jenny saying it's the heat / someone else fainting because Prinny is perving, and the hero pretending it's the heat.

Actually, is that Judith/Worth in Brighton, that second one? Kindle is downstairs so I can't check and am relying on shit memory.

With all those stays there was probably a lot of swooning in the heat, but some seem more prone than others.

will add the Brummel to my Amazon wishlist, but sadly fear I may have to actually buy it myself .

The kissing a strange girl on the road thing was reused in Venetia when Damerel found Venetia picking blackberries, but that scene was more believable, so presumably better written. I don't have the books to hand at the moment, but i believe D also used a nickname for V, along the same lines as Clorinda.

I wonder how many other reused scenes we can spot...

I'm enjoying it too, Leonie (well, the introduction anyway, work has meant I haven't had time to get properly stuck into it). Were you surprised by how thick it is? I was expecting something along the lines of the GH biography!

I have only just found you lot - I can't believe that I missed out on all of the excitement to date.

I haven't re-read Regency Buck but it's not a top tier imo. Judith is too brattish to be endearing in her headstrongness. For me, its because she's actually intensely conventional but trying to be eccentric just to make a point. Arabella does that so much better.

I wonder if Worth marries her because she amuses him. He sees straight through all the pretenses. I suspect he went for her cash and her looks. Although their relationship in IA seems a bit more balanced and equal that one would expect if this was the main reason for his proposal.

I agree that the strength of this book is in the supporting cast. Charles & Brummell are lovely, Peregrine amuses me no end and I like the batty companion too. Its one of her strengths as a novelist that her minor characters have such life and depth.

It's worth finishing The Masqueraders, Leonie - it is very silly, though, so don't feel bad about a bit of skim-reading!

The Masqueraders does improve but it isn't one of my favourites. There are a lot of loose threads to be tied up...

I just re-read RB for this thread. I've decided that I'm nowhere near so keen on a lot of the "heroes" now I'm more mature(!) as I was when I first read most of GH, starting with Devil's Cub when I was about 13.

I really didn't like the fact that Worth just came up and kissed Judith when she was on her way back from her walk while Perry had gone to the fight at the beginning of the book. I don't like the fact that in those days it was not permissible for "ladies" to do so many activities - walking on their own anywhere, going in the sea (Peregrine looking at the bathing machines through a telescope). I feel sorry for people like Mrs Scattergood who had to rely on the goodwill of people to be able to live. I also now wish that the characters in this book would just talk to each other. I can't understand why Worth had to entrap Bernard and didn't just "get rid" of him as he is of much higher social standing than Bernard.

Having said that, I still very much enjoy reading GH. It's pure escapism for me and probably takes me back to when I was a teenager with nowhere near as much responsibility.

Just as an aside, in a school I was teaching in a couple of years ago there was a Charis (sounded Kareess). When I first read Frederica I used to sound Charis as Chariss (with a Ch, not a K).

Was going to write a list of my guesses Midnight then saw you would rather have your privacy respected. It's rather disconcerting when a name you only know of as one thing/person comes up in a different context. My own very unusual surname showed up in a book once, a fantasy novel. She was a rather silly, highly promiscuous fairy!
I remember in one of her books she'd clearly been trawling an atlas for character surnames, and the page had obviously fallen open around here.