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The Night is Dark and Full of Terrors - GoT chat # 1

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WinterIsComing · 09/01/2012 14:27

following on from...

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NooneLikesAGreyjoy · 10/01/2012 15:56

I dont like fantasy either. couldnt abide LOTR etc. but this seems almost real.

DaenerysTargaryen · 10/01/2012 15:54

i don't do fantasy either... unless you include the lion the witch and the wardobe when i was 7...

oh but i do like a bit of terry pratchett!

maybe i do like fantasy Confused

ValarMorghulis · 10/01/2012 15:33

I tripped up the stairs because i was too engrossed in affc.

I don't do fantasy or anything similar normally either. I dislike myth and magic usually, yet got seems so realistic that i almost forget. Iyswim.

NooneLikesAGreyjoy · 10/01/2012 14:50
Grin
WinterIsComing · 10/01/2012 14:43

Love that phrase. I might start trotting it out after unimaginable bullshit on AIBU benefit / DLA threads. GRRM does it in his books after all.

"Yes, and they get a free top-of-the-range Ferrari every two weeks!"

"It is known" Hmm

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NooneLikesAGreyjoy · 10/01/2012 13:51

My best friend is a man called geoff and he loves GoT... It is known

NooneLikesAGreyjoy · 10/01/2012 13:51

My best friend is a man called geoff and he loves GoT... It is known

WinterIsComing · 10/01/2012 12:32

Dany Grin

?My husband Jeff was a loving, well-adjusted man when he first picked up A Game of Thrones (A Song of Fire and Ice Book One)"

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DaenerysTargaryen · 10/01/2012 12:08

?At a recent aspirational dinner party I locked myself in the toilet and read a few pages. I couldn't help myself, I just had to see how the manipulative dwarf Tyrion Lannister's evil schemes unfolded."

WinterIsComing · 10/01/2012 11:16

Which has reminded me of this spoof article Grin

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WinterIsComing · 10/01/2012 11:14

Hello all! I like the Greyjoy username Smile

Know what you mean about re-reading. I often have to have to refer to the wiki page for minor characters when I've forgotten the back-story.

Don't know about anyone else but it's decades since I've read a fantasy novel. DH reads nothing else but I've never really embraced the genre.

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ValarMorghulis · 10/01/2012 10:39

I think that is one of the reasons that you have to read the books twice.

The first time you are so aware of the sub plots and the hidden meanings that you sort of miss the beauty of the story. You are reading a name and racking your brain trying to picture where the fit, how they are related to whom and what that will mean as the story unfolds.

I spend the whole time trying to work it out before i get there iyswim.

So its not until i read the second time, knowing what is to come, that i can fully appreciate it all.

ValarMorghulis · 10/01/2012 10:36

I must say that i do spend much of the book being horrified at the way the children are treated.
I am often distracted by the lifelong psychological damage being done at such a young age.

And Theon is so very definitely the proof of that

NooneLikesAGreyjoy · 10/01/2012 10:26

he has never been able to prove himself (look at robbs reaction when he killed one of the wildingfs who had bram in book 1) he has been humiliated and rejected at every turn. He is essentially a tragic figure.

NooneLikesAGreyjoy · 10/01/2012 10:26

he has never been able to prove himself (look at robbs reaction when he killed one of the wildingfs who had bram in book 1) he has been humiliated and rejected at every turn. He is essentially a tragic figure.

ValarMorghulis · 10/01/2012 10:18

exactly. He was taken at a very young age and raised by Ned, yet never accepted as his son or a Stark.

When he returned home he was outcast by his kinsmen as being a soft northman and no longer an Ironborn.

I think his actions were born through a desire to be accepted. Ned no longer could, Robb was off being King and Theon was and could never be more than a friend. He would never rule or have any power as Neds Ward.

As Balons son he needed to prove himself in battle. His plan, as deceitful as it was, was incredibly clever.

He wanted to appear to be a brutal Ironman but he spared Bran and Rickon, and in fact his ruse to appear more brutal saved their lives. Had Ramsey realised they still lived he would have hunted them and killed them for sure.

NooneLikesAGreyjoy · 10/01/2012 09:52

sticking with this I think.

I feel the same way about Reek. his behaviour (vile as it was) was borne out of his fathers pretensions and ambitions. he doesnt really belong anywhere.

ValarMorghulis · 10/01/2012 09:32

Well i do like MoD but NLAG is good too.

I can' help but not hate reek though. i know i should, be i just can't. I think Ned's influence has touched him despite him trying to fight it.

Hello to Sonot.

NooneLikesAGreyjoy · 10/01/2012 09:26

or this!

NooneWantsToBeAGreyjoy · 10/01/2012 09:22

do we like this name better?

MotherofDragons/lissie

MotherofDragons · 10/01/2012 09:16

morning fellow fan! you all well?

welcome notsowonderwoman.

agree that Sam's close calls are nail-biting

DaenerysTargaryen · 10/01/2012 00:43

welcome sonotwonderwoman :)

i was screaming at ned when he killed lady!

WinterIsComing · 10/01/2012 00:19

Hello Sonotwonderwoman Smile

You haven't missed this at all, it's very new. Welcome!

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Sonotwonderwoman · 09/01/2012 23:57

I have a confession to make. I just 'stalked' winter here from another thread
(waves at Winter) after doing a douuble take at the name.
Can't believe I have missed this thread!

WinterIsComing · 09/01/2012 23:52

Ha ha - I see that now. Yes, he is very daft.

Goodnight from Ned

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