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Where to get the Book of Boff published?

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BoffinMum · 14/02/2011 14:55

As some of you may know from other threads, or from being sent bits of my housekeeping book to help you out, I have written a domestic manual for those short of time and money that I'd like to get published. I did a lot of research into pitches, wrote what I think is a good one, and susequently approached Darley Anderson, a literary agency, and also Dorling Kindersley, the publisher, and have got absolutely nowhere (not that I expected to, tbh). Not even a standard 'thank you for your email' response. I would welcome any advice people care to give me on how to move this on, as I think it would be a real shame if it never saw the light of day.

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Bonsoir · 18/02/2011 18:51

Actually, I want a book that is called "How to do your housework to a much higher standard in much less time than you ever thought possible".

pointydog · 18/02/2011 18:49

I'd've thought most publishers just go for big sellers.

My serious-face answer would be that no book on housework could make progress in this area.

plupervert · 18/02/2011 18:44

Yes, indeed, pointydog. Unfortunately, publishers would probably consider that to be sexual harassment and feminist provocation - no?

Hmm
pointydog · 18/02/2011 18:15

A book called How to Have More Sex with your Wife with a big chapter on how women feel respected and cared for when the man pulls his weight with housely chores and thus will feel more amorous towards him.

FoiledAgain · 18/02/2011 18:03

How many threads on here complain that men don't do their fair share, or consider any housework as "helping", ie it's really the woman's job?
What sort of a book could make progress here, without being confined to the feminism section of the bookshop?

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 18/02/2011 17:56

did Katherine Whitehorn ever do a housework book? She did cooking and children.

Mary Beard did The Good Working Mothers Guide in the 80s which has some good stuff on domestic management but too limited to one particular lifestyle.

Bonsoir · 18/02/2011 17:54

BoffinMum - I think Nigella's key selling point with How To Eat was that she updated traditional recipes for the modern gadget era. I learned to cook with Constance Spry, and very useful that was; Nigella just makes it all so much easier, without forfeiting taste (as Delia does).

Nigella doesn't make me feel inadequate - on the contrary, I feel rather superior as I don't feed my family nearly as much junk as she seems to Blush

BoffinMum · 18/02/2011 17:16

PMSL Bronze.
Bathroom still looks good and I didn't even have to wash the paintbrushes that time. Grin

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BoffinMum · 18/02/2011 17:15

DonaAna, your wish is very definitely my command.

Weekly cleaning schedule

The thing about Nigella is - well - it's Nigella, making people think they are vaguely inadequate. Along with Martha Stewart, women's glossies and so on. Now Shirley Conran's Superwoman is probably a classic in terms of writing well about something essentially tedious, from a more feminist standpoint, but very much of its time, so a lot of it is like a catalogue of cleaning products with a few juicy quotes thrown in, for example, "Sack the au pair and teach the children to cook instead, it saves effort because you don't change your children every year". That kind of nugget.

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theyoungvisiter · 18/02/2011 16:46

Dirtymartini - see Boffinmums' post of 14:55:10 for a link

MarshaBrady · 18/02/2011 16:34

My favourite book for cooking is Julia Child's Mastering the Art of French Cooking. It is beautifully done, informative, but is so warm and lovely to read that it feels less like a cook book than something lifestyle-y.

Bonsoir's link is the nicest looking of housekeeping books. But the others, the pink ones, make me want to run away covering my eyes.

bronze · 18/02/2011 16:16

Now I'm pretty sure it doesn't advise pregnant women with spd to decorate bathrooms

pointydog · 18/02/2011 16:14

Men who are interested in reading stuff based on business models aren't interested in doing the housework.

DonaAna · 18/02/2011 16:10

I'd love the efficiency angle. I'd buy something that explains me how to minimize time spent on housework and maximize impact.

I'd love a modern housekeeping manual. I'd love a subversive feminist angle. I'd love a 21st century Mrs Beeton. I don't want any management slang in something I read during my free time /buy with my own money. Boff, I think your blog uses too much passive voice and is slightly - not sure - boring or patronising. You should read very carefully Nigella's How to Eat, I think she hss mastered the style of writing deliciously about something that has been done to death (do we really need another basic cookbook?).

I went to your blog to find housekeeping shortcuts - and I found a post about how to vacuum bookshelves (something I've decided never to do, or if needed. definitely something I'd outsource). Love the menu ideas though, I think you are on to something with them. To keep reading, I'd need a how to do a quick and efficient weekly home cleaning.

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 18/02/2011 16:06

I think men would buy a book on housekeeping that used models lifted from business but it would probably have to be a book aimed squarely at men Grin

men on the whole (though I'm sure there are exceptions) have too much invested in believing there is nothing much to housekeeping. I think the people who would buy this book would be those who have tried to do it and found it hard, or at least have found that it takes some thought.

DirtyMartini · 18/02/2011 15:50

PM or link, anyone? Sorry, if there is a link above I keep missing it.

DirtyMartini · 18/02/2011 15:42

Theyoungvisiter is right, absolutely. Not your job as author.

theyoungvisiter · 18/02/2011 15:20

"Last time I wrote a book I designed my own cover. It was very easy, and their designer finished it off and put it in the right format."

I can safely say, that would never happen with a mainstream consumer publisher.

At least, not unless you're Stephen King, in which case you could probably do what you want.

Authors do get to make suggestions, but the final say is with the publisher really, and there's no guarantee the suggestions will be listened to!

Bonsoir · 18/02/2011 15:20

BoffinMum - I'm afraid that your division of domestic labour doesn't stand up to scrutiny at all - I think it is way more complicated than that...

plupervert · 18/02/2011 15:17

Could your "Boffin" persona be used for the title instead?

Boffin's guide to the home, something like that?

pointydog · 18/02/2011 15:15

But that's a very patronising sentence. He had to send you off to do a phd? Was that tongue in cheek?

And will any men buy a book on housekeeping? I can't see it. It's helping to perpetuate the idea that the woman does the bulk of the housework. Not only does she do most of the housework, she reads about it in her spare time.

BoffinMum · 18/02/2011 15:12

I thought Austerity Housekeeping would look good in mock brown paper, like Jocasta Innes 'The Thrifty Decorator'. If we keep the Austerity thing, that is.

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BoffinMum · 18/02/2011 15:11

Last time I wrote a book I designed my own cover. It was very easy, and their designer finished it off and put it in the right format.

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BoffinMum · 18/02/2011 15:10

I think that's where I am coming from, Seth. Women are being rapidly devalued as I see it, and there is an expectation that we engage in private domestic lives while the chaps are off making large scale decisions and influencing everything. I once said to my DH, "If you see me in a fluffy pink outfit vacantly buying ornaments, shoot me" and that was the point at which he sent me off to do a PhD.

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FoiledAgain · 18/02/2011 15:08

I'm not sure how much say authors get in the final cover design, judging by the experiences of a couple of acquaintances.

Publishers think women will buy pastel-coloured books.