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MIL only capable of inane babble

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anotheranotheramother · Yesterday 23:27

In the universe of PIL problems, this one probably isn’t that bad. But now that we’ve moved closer to PIL, it’s becoming more and more apparent, and infuriating.

MIL is a dream if you’re talking to her to her for 5 minutes. She is friendly, polite, and enthusiastic. The problem is that this seems to be her only gear - I’ve never had a conversation of any substance with her (or overheard her having one with anyone else). Everything is “lovely” and “wonderful” and “great” and “wow isn’t this fantastic” and “aren’t you lucky” and “you’re doing such a fab job” - none of which sounds bad on the face of it. But when you’ve been trying to make conversation with her over several hours, trust me, it gets old VERY quickly. Say anything mildly negative and she’ll either ignore or try to put a mind-numbingly optimistic spin on it.

It’s some weird mix of toxic positivity, English politeness, and lobotomy patient.

I’m not expecting in-depth discourse on Nietzsche but it’s not even small talk; it’s just constant inane babble. She also feels the need to fill every silence and just keeps going and going and going.

infuriatingly she also interrupts me constantly and tries to finish my sentences, and she is always - always - completely wrong in predicting what I am about to say. You’d think someone so “polite” would at least be a good listener, but no.

It’s also incredibly frustrating when we need to discuss something even moderately important and she feels the need to interrupt and weigh in, but it’s rarely with anything that actually contributes to the conversation.

DH just thinks his mummy is lovely and trying hard and being friendly, which I guess she is, and I know it’s not coming from a bad place. But I’m starting to get visibly annoyed and snappy with her because of the sheer amount of drivel I’ve been exposed to lately.

Before she stopped drinking due to health issues she’d at least come out with an opinion every now and then once she’d had a drink or two, but it seems like this was the only thing that could magic it out of her. In a way I feel quite bad for her as she’s clearly been made to feel that this is the only acceptable way to communicate.

I feel like I’ve tried everything - asking her questions about herself and her life, talking about her interests, talking about myself and my interests to feel out any mutual ground, bringing up current or local events, but nothing seems to have much mileage in it.

Anyone else!?

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maudelovesharold · Today 01:20

One example, a donkey made a visit to her care home. He’s a lovely friendly donkey and the owners love him. The residents get carrots to give to the donkey. MIL turned to me and said
‘Doesn’t he chew well?’ FFS what do I say to that?

Would ‘Yes, he chews really well, MIL!’, fit the bill, perhaps?

IkeaMeatballGravy · Today 01:17

Is she lonely? If she doesn't see many people during the week maybe her social skills have gone a bit rusty. Could she also be unhappy, especially if she is in recovery from a drinking problem. I know in the times in my life where I have been desperately unhappy I have been guilty of keeping conversations toxicly positive to avoid breaking down.

I think the suggestion of taking her out is a very good one.

Goldencoast2 · Today 01:12

My MIL is exactly the same. It’s infuriating and I feel like I don’t actually know her at all because she never expresses a real opinion or thought. Someone could be telling her about their friend who has dropped out of college to become a meth dealer and she’d respond with “Oh well, to each their own.”

OneoftheWeddingPeople · Today 01:11

Why would she be nervous around her own son and Dil shes presumably known for years?

Started noticing this in a friend in our wider group she’s on constant transmit - just witters on non stop mostly drivel. Nice enough woman but realised I can’t be in her company longer than about 2 hours.

Snowfrogyour reaction is odd are you like this yourself? Why so aggressive to the op? People are allowed (anonymous) opinions.

JustAnotherWhinger · Today 01:01

She does sound like she could be neurodiverse - especially the fact that she is worse since you see her more. It’s much harder to mask on a regular basis than it is occasionally.

And if she’s stopped drinking then that may also be adding to a nervousness if she used the alcohol as a confidence boost.

SnowFrogJelly · Today 01:01

Cherrycoko · Today 00:46

What's 'babbly' about the OP's post? It sounds as if you're saying that just for the sake of having something to say.

Ok how about judgy and superior

Smokewhistle · Today 00:57

OP I feel your pain. My MIL drives me insane with her pointless babble. I have to zone out and ignore her otherwise I will explode.
One example, a donkey made a visit to her care home. He’s a lovely friendly donkey and the owners love him. The residents get carrots to give to the donkey. MIL turned to me and said
‘Doesn’t he chew well?’ FFS what do I say to that?
Her son (my DH) knows that she will talk absolute nonsense. Let’s face it, he’s had a lifetime of it. He zones out and leaves me to pick up the pieces. I’m wise to it now, I do the same.
Anyone ever watched the film Clockwise with John Cleese? They pick up a woman in one of the cars and she talks non stop about nothing the whole journey.

My MIL is 92 and is as bright as a button. Nothing gets past her and she sees and knows everything. She definatly does not have any form of memory loss.

Sorry OP, I don’t know what to tell you. I just zone out, it’s the only way I can cope.

OneoftheWeddingPeople · Today 00:56

This is like “the ick”. Once you’ve noticed something like this and it annoys you that’s it.

Mil is the opposite extremely negative. It’s so bad it’s almost funny.

Dandeloosha · Today 00:51

I’d get out of the house or do an activity or a project. I do this with my mother who is similar but in a mildly negative way. A walk to the park and a coffee, a big jigsaw that gets rolled out when she’s there, a trip to a local NT property, a beauty treatment at a local spa, a mooch round Waterstones or John Lewis, etc.

Cherrycoko · Today 00:46

SnowFrogJelly · Today 00:42

Bit harsh.. your post is rather babbly

Edited

What's 'babbly' about the OP's post? It sounds as if you're saying that just for the sake of having something to say.

Naurrr · Today 00:45

She is probably wishing she could get on with her day. Several hours is far too long to impose on people.
Your husband can visit all he wants, no need to join him often.

SnowFrogJelly · Today 00:42

Bit harsh.. your post is rather babbly

ThatLoudCat · Today 00:25

I wish my mil was more like that!

Mine is a major over sharer. She goes on about how fat she is, her depression, different medications she's on, and she ends up crying at some point almost every day of a visit.

It's just awkward!

anotheranotheramother · Today 00:20

@Rememberdragons I like the idea of having an activity to do with her, thank you! My instinct is that it’s not her feeling nervous - we’ve known each other for a while now and this has only really started becoming an issue since we’ve moved closer to them - but I could be wrong, of course.

@Cherrycoko i agree… we live at an awkward distance where it’s too close to NOT see each other reasonably often (especially given how close they are as a family) but also far enough that it can’t be a quick drop in/drop out situation which is how those chunks of time happen. And it always ends up being the weekends because of work. But I do need to get savvier about this.

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Rememberdragons · Today 00:09

Could she be nervous? Especially if she's picking up on your annoyance at her, or she feels she's not meeting your expectations.
It sounds like you might be coming across as trying to hard and the pressure to perform to a certain standard might be adding to her nervousness.
Could you go to a garden centre or a walk or do some gardening together, something other than sitting there trying to force conversation?
Ask her to help you with something physically, she might feel more relaxed doing something and allow the conversation to come more naturally.

Rustyhandlebars · Today 00:05

She's just different to you, so just turn this way of thinking around and have some fun with her in your own private way. Ask what she thinks of you having some massive tattoos on your neck , both of you having your hair dyed green, it. See how optimistic she is then .😀

Cherrycoko · Today 00:03

anotheranotheramother · Today 00:00

I might be mean and stuck up, but I will often get stuck with her for a good chunk of time while DH and FIL talk (they are in the same industry and very close so talk endlessly) which I’m sure isn’t her chosen way of spending a Saturday either, but that’s where we are.

I would nip that in the bud. Try to not be available every Saturday. If he thinks his mother is so lovely, he can spend time talking to her.

anotheranotheramother · Today 00:00

I might be mean and stuck up, but I will often get stuck with her for a good chunk of time while DH and FIL talk (they are in the same industry and very close so talk endlessly) which I’m sure isn’t her chosen way of spending a Saturday either, but that’s where we are.

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SaulHudsonDavidJones · Today 00:00

I get it. I would struggle to converse with someone like that. Does she not have many people in her life to practise the art of conversation with? My DH’s auntie is like this. She lives alone and no friends so when she speaks to family she talks over them all the time and goes on and on and on about very dull topics. I try to engage but honestly, it’s really difficult and boring and I don’t feel heard at all.

Cherrycoko · Yesterday 23:57

She sounds infuriating. Ignore the people on here who sat you're being mean. People on here take delight in being doormats and shaming anyone who doesn't want to do that. That said, I don't think there's anything you can do except limit how much time you spend with her.

anotheranotheramother · Yesterday 23:56

@Goodmorningeveryone26 yes, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, it’s having to spend the better part of a Saturday with her but not actually feeling like we’re connecting in any meaningful way. I know some people find silences awkward but this feels like much harder work! Especially as DH and I have had some not-so-great things in our lives lately, it’s more than just boredom, it’s actually quite invalidating at times. Again, don’t necessarily need a post mortem or heady discussion on everything that’s going wrong in our lives but I also don’t want to hear how great she thinks the new curtains are for the 10 millionth time.

Agree that the manufacture happiness is very likely not coming from a particularly happy place for her, though.

@Pallisers I did consider this, but yes, she’s always been this way and is not that old; she is also quite sharp in terms of memory and other cognitive functions so I don’t think it’s a symptom of anything of this sort.

Ironically my husband thinks she’s great socially - which she certainly is at parties where you circulate and speak to each person for a few minutes. She’s got that down to an art… interesting someone mentioned ND; my own mother is ND but she can’t do the happy fluffy stuff and errs too far in the other direction of being too direct at times. I may not have considered that it could manifest in this way too?

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HeddaGarbled · Yesterday 23:55

She’s probably nervous in your company. Give it time. And don’t be snappy.

Tourmalines · Yesterday 23:55

Well, you just keep up your snappiness with her and hopefully she won’t wanna see you any more, so you will be doing her a favour.

SarahAndQuack · Yesterday 23:51

As problems go, this is so minor, surely?

She's trying to be nice.

Maybe she isn't very intelligent or very confident? It doesn't sound as if any of this is her fault.

If you find it hard discussing important things with her, then ... um, don't?!

tiredtiredd · Yesterday 23:50

You do sound mean and stuck up op