Please or to access all these features

30 days only

Would you take children to a grandparent’s funeral after almost a decade of no direct contact with the kids

65 replies

NotPerfectlyAdverage · 09/09/2026 18:17

Hi could do with some advice. Basic facts boil down to this.

Dhs step mum has suddenly and unexpectedly died.

Fil hasn't seen our two youngest kids for over nine years. No falling out. I will go into that later but it's nothing acrimonious.

Dd was 3. Ds was 5. Would you take them to the funeral? They are now 12 and 14. Dh sees his dad once a year or so. But with our two now adult boys who have very infrequent but more recent contact and via SM

OP posts:
NotPerfectlyAdverage · 09/09/2026 22:27

BigWig78 · 09/09/2026 22:14

Stop overthinking. You know they should not go. So don’t. Your FIL sounds rather horrible tbh. Grief doesn’t give you a right to be a dick. Your husband needs to grow a pair and stop pandering to this abusive twat and leave him to it.

Overthinking is all i can do to cope. Normally we would have been with fil as soon as she took a turn if we wasn't dysfunctional.

But instead I have been at work all day and dh has been off sick at home. It's all i have right now to process. I have known her decades. I loved her. Dh should be there. I should be supporting him. But here we are. I can not even process this is real.

OP posts:
NotPerfectlyAdverage · 09/09/2026 22:23

Morepositivemum · 09/09/2026 22:14

Why doesn’t your fil want to see your dh? You make it sound like it’s normal but if there’s a reason then your kids don’t need to see their dad being ignored or worse there being drama with fil

Right now? He is destroyed by grief.
He is ex military.
Hardy wants his son to see him in a state? That would be my guess. I think that's very close if not the truth. Plus no bandwidth for more persons emotions needs or grief. I can't know for sure. It's valid. But not helping do that's for sure.
Dh job is worry about fil
My job is worry about do and kids right now. I can't protect fil from this r even do. Kids I can. Not from the death. From the bigger picture

OP posts:
LeaveMeBee · 09/09/2026 22:21

Assuming your kids ASD comes down from Grandad then....?
Sorry for your loss

Morepositivemum · 09/09/2026 22:14

Why doesn’t your fil want to see your dh? You make it sound like it’s normal but if there’s a reason then your kids don’t need to see their dad being ignored or worse there being drama with fil

BigWig78 · 09/09/2026 22:14

Stop overthinking. You know they should not go. So don’t. Your FIL sounds rather horrible tbh. Grief doesn’t give you a right to be a dick. Your husband needs to grow a pair and stop pandering to this abusive twat and leave him to it.

NotPerfectlyAdverage · 09/09/2026 22:11

Also gut says if we asked fil, he would say don't bring them. Not for horrible reasons. He would say don't upset them.

OP posts:
NotPerfectlyAdverage · 09/09/2026 22:08

FourSevenFive · 09/09/2026 21:26

Plus fil doesn't want to talk to dh right now. His life has imploded. Is the best time to meet grandad?

Normally, I'd say yes, it is better for young people to be there and have closure (even if the relationship wasn't that active), than be shielded and feel they weren't allowed to.

However, this is the reason for "no" here. If the main griever doesn't want to see even his son, having younger grandchildren there doesn't add any value for anyone.

Edited

Yes this is another big factor. Both bil and fil have expressly said to not contact him. Take his lead and give him the space he needs. I don't think he is going to have bandwidth for dh this week. So why bandwidth for strange kids in a few weeks time?

He is stranger to the kids.

The kids are strangers to him.

It's very early days and raw. Maybe it will feel different in a few days. But ds14 said to his dad "I'm sorry for your loss". Despite the fact that he did last meet grandad aged five, he was non verbal until 7 so that memory will not be memory he can attach to fil. We had to show him a photo so he would know who it was and not be scared or confused that it was dhs bio mum who he does know. So he doesn't even know her by name.

Poor mil. It's no reflection on her. Nothing to do with being a step mum. This is purely on fil not knowing them. my heads spinning. I just had this this feeling when fil said don't phone, don't come up. Barriers come up ( 100% fair and normal) but this history popped into my head and I thought "dont put this barrier on display to the kids". Seeing dh being blocked out. As I say fil has to do whatever he has to do 100% as this is fundamentally about and around him. But let's be honest its dysfunctional. Why throw the kids in now? Right at the worse time for him? Gut is saying no. Head is saying give them a very blunt choice. But I know they will go. But if don't mention it, they will never ask. Lots of talking and its not come up yet from either.

OP posts:
CheeseWisely · 09/09/2026 21:30

No I wouldn’t, unless they’ve directly expressed that they want to go. I must have been 10 or 11 when my great grandmother died and I’d seen her regularly (although she had Alzheimers so didn’t ‘know’ me as such, it wasn’t a typical grandparent / grandchild relationship. Honestly I was probably a bit frightened of her, despite vaguely remembering her pre-Alzheimers). I was taken to her funeral but can’t say it would have bothered me at all (then or now) if I hadn’t gone.

FourSevenFive · 09/09/2026 21:26

Plus fil doesn't want to talk to dh right now. His life has imploded. Is the best time to meet grandad?

Normally, I'd say yes, it is better for young people to be there and have closure (even if the relationship wasn't that active), than be shielded and feel they weren't allowed to.

However, this is the reason for "no" here. If the main griever doesn't want to see even his son, having younger grandchildren there doesn't add any value for anyone.

WimbleOfWombledon · 09/09/2026 21:21

No I wouldn’t take them to a funeral where they have no relationship with and no memories of the deceased or her husband. FIL sounds quite unpleasant as well - wouldn’t want to expose the kids to him, especially if he’s grieving and might be more unpleasant than usual.

sakura06 · 09/09/2026 21:17

Based on the background you provided, absolutely not. They didn’t know her or have any relationship with her.

luckylavender · 09/09/2026 20:54

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · 09/09/2026 19:04

I think you present it to them not as a choice but as an opportunity to express an opinion if they need to.

Something like

"Daddy is going to the funeral, but we don't think either of you want to go do you - it's such a long time since we saw them I don't suppose you have any memories do you?"

99% probability they will agree with you and you haven't laid the decision on them

Small possibility, they have some complicated feelings and this is an opportunity to express them.

That’s not asking them, it’s leading.

Justploddingonandon · 09/09/2026 20:51

I would ask them.
Somewhat different circumstances, but I didn’t think my DC ( DD in particular as she was 4 when they last saw each other ) would remember my dad as they hadn’t seen him for 5+ years previous due to Covid and then his dementia progressing rapidly to the point he wouldn’t have know they were there if I’d taken them to visit. Anyway they were very upset when he died and actually remembered quite a lot, so I asked them and made sure they knew what to expect then took them to the funeral as that’s what they wanted.

WhatNoRaisins · 09/09/2026 20:49

I wouldn't. I'm not against bringing children to funerals in of itself at all. It can be a important thing for a child to help process the death of a loved one but I don't see the point in taking them to a funeral of a virtual stranger.

Call me a cow but I really couldn't care less about keeping up appearances for someone that couldn't be bothered to make time for my children. They don't owe FIL anything if he hasn't seen them in 10 years.

Peoplemakemedespair · 09/09/2026 20:44

KindlySurfiingPlatypus · 09/09/2026 19:04

I think you present it to them not as a choice but as an opportunity to express an opinion if they need to.

Something like

"Daddy is going to the funeral, but we don't think either of you want to go do you - it's such a long time since we saw them I don't suppose you have any memories do you?"

99% probability they will agree with you and you haven't laid the decision on them

Small possibility, they have some complicated feelings and this is an opportunity to express them.

I think this is making it far more deeper than it needs to be. And I don’t see the need for careful words and baby talk. A distant relative they don’t know has died. A ‘hey, do you want to go to x’s funeral or not’ is surely fine?

Mumoftwoteenagers · 09/09/2026 20:39

Me and my brother were 14 and 12 when our grandfather died. (Nearly 15 and 13.) The relationship was “complicated”. Very complicated. And to add to the complication the funeral was quite a big deal as my grandfather was “well known in certain circles”. Not quite State Mourning but a lot more than a normal funeral.

My parents had to decide if we went and if so what level of involvement we had.

They talked to us. We discussed it a lot. All the different options were explored. In the end I felt very strongly what I wanted. Db partly followed my lead but also stepped back on a couple of things.

It was the right decision for us.

There were problems at the funeral as my aunt had made the decisions for my cousins (then 13 and 10) and the 13 year old was angry with her mum that she had made the choice for her. So things had to be changed at the last minute.

I know you want to protect your children but they are old enough to have an opinion even if the opinion is “I don’t know - what do you think mum” which was my brother’s overall.

NotPerfectlyAdverage · 09/09/2026 20:36

PrincessofWills · 09/09/2026 20:20

Yes, sometimes you should do the right thing even though it isn't what you want.

It's not about what I want. It's what is best for fil as he is at the centre here and what is best for my kids.

I am toying with the idea of asking them but my real fear is so many things. I can't think straight. More rejection? Neither of them are in the slightest bit upset.

OP posts:
PrincessofWills · 09/09/2026 20:20

Yes, sometimes you should do the right thing even though it isn't what you want.

AnneLovesGilbert · 09/09/2026 20:16

You’ve explained in detail why they shouldn’t be there.

KittyWilkinson · 09/09/2026 20:15

FIL sounds awful. No way would I take children in those circumstances.

SplendidUtterly · 09/09/2026 20:11

Nope.

NotPerfectlyAdverage · 09/09/2026 20:11

Strawberryfruitstarburst · 09/09/2026 18:19

I wouldn’t, I don’t believe in putting grief on children out of duty. She was a stranger to them.

This is how I feel. The basic fact is they are strangers but will go for duty to attend. It boils down to this.

I'm not drip feeding but we have asked fil multiple times if he wants us to bring the kids up. There are a never ending string of "when the weather is better, after my holiday, soon, soon..."

I loved that woman and I'm hurting right now but it almost feels voyageristic. Like they ( he, fil) kept the little two at such arms lenght.

Both of the kids has Autism, EHCPs and at sen placements. My dd is extremely bright and they both fully understand what is going on.

I feel we will be trotting them out as a socail norm. They went to mums funeral 3 years ago but they saw her very regularly. She was a nan. Not a stranger of blood.

They went to dhs cousin funeral. A bit of a stranger granted but they was on the outskirts. No focus as a grandkid. No awkward questions memories, no mention of them in the eulogy. It will undoubtedly say say she was a living gran. And she was. But in no normal sense.

Plus fil doesn't want to talk to dh right now. His life has imploded. Is the best time to meet grandad? When he is utterly destroyed? Every part of me says no. They will only know their dad, uncle, aunt and two cousins. Everyone there will be a stranger. It will be huge.

I don't want to make this about their ASD. At the crux of it, they didn't know mil. They don't know grandad. Fil can't even face his son right now.

OP posts:
Puffinsandcoffee · 09/09/2026 20:10

Yes, I most definitely would take my kids to that funeral.

WildExpert · 09/09/2026 20:05

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

NotPerfectlyAdverage · 09/09/2026 19:50

ProfessorRedshoeblueshoe · 09/09/2026 18:33

Have you got 4 children ? Because if 2 of them are adults surely they can decide for themselves

Yes those two - it's totally up them. I mean my school age kids. I have no desire to dictate anything to the 18 and 22 year old.

OP posts: