Lindsay Clancy case: was it evil, or severe mental illness?

Not at all, cases get huge amounts of attention here.

You are convinced it’s a witch hunt, it looks like people are forgetting the victims.

Oh I wouldn’t personally donate to it. Perhaps I’d think about donating towards it if the money was going to postpartum depression/psychosis research, but obviously LC’s parents have moved by choice and I don’t think it’s up to others to fund that choice. But that’s just my personal view. People can spend their money how they want.

I’ll tell you what is super unhealthy is yet another media witch hunt. The behaviours you complain of seem to be a response to it.

Comparable cases in the U.K. by contrast were carried out quietly and without this media hysteria.

I’ll tell you what is super unhealthy is yet another media witch hunt. The behaviours you complain of seem to be a response to it.

Comparable cases in the U.K. by contrast were carried out quietly and without this media hysteria.

I mentioned it earlier but I think there is something very strange going on in relation to this case. Some of the reactions (elsewhere, not on this thread) such as the dressing up in pink, the “same Lindsay” TikToks, and the extraordinary sums of money raised are bizarre. I don’t know what or why it is but it seems very unhealthy.

nb To clarify I am not referring to people calmly and rationally arguing that LC is not criminally responsible for murdering her children.

Typical mumsnet reactions here (not reading 30 pages of hormonal women)
Shes an evil murderer, using PP as an excuse.
Any women who 'sympathise' needs looking at closely by social services!

If you are googling intrusive thoughts and hallucinations then you must be fully aware that they are intrusive thoughts and hallucinations, not reality. If you are aware that this is what they are, why do you have to do what they tell you? And how is it true psychosis if you are able to understand what it is?

The fundraiser is for her parents, not her.

I mentioned it earlier but I think there is something very strange going on in relation to this case. Some of the reactions (elsewhere, not on this thread) such as the dressing up in pink, the “same Lindsay” TikToks, and the extraordinary sums of money raised are bizarre. I don’t know what or why it is but it seems very unhealthy.

nb To clarify I am not referring to people calmly and rationally arguing that LC is not criminally responsible for murdering her children.

Yes. Worse is the conspiracy theories he gets aimed at him.

I don’t get this hyper focus on LC to the exclusion of the dc and father.

If you bothered to read the thread you’d see that a lot of “hormonal women” believe she is guilty of first degree murder.

Typical mumsnet reactions here (not reading 30 pages of hormonal women)
Shes an evil murderer, using PP as an excuse.
Any women who 'sympathise' needs looking at closely by social services!

and their father

It’s not a fact she was only psychotic for the time she killed her kids.

The fact that she was googling hallucinations and intrusive thoughts indicates they had been present a while.

Some people may experience a single psychotic episode that resolves and doesn’t recur. Others may have recurring episodes where symptoms come and go with clear periods of recovery. Psychosis linked to bipolar can appear during highs or lows and may resolve when the mood stabilises. So if bipolar is treated properly it may keep psychotic symptoms under control.

I mean people seem to over empathise with her torment when what the dc went through is incomprehensible.

Possibly but all this talk of torment and hell I feel is aimed at the wrong person / people. It should be words for the dc.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean, the children were the main innocent victims here which everyone understands and accepts but she has to live with that as well as being paralysed from a failed suicide attempt

Possibly but all this talk of torment and hell I feel is aimed at the wrong person / people. It should be words for the dc.

'It seems to me that what you’re saying in this reply is that you haven’t seen conclusive evidence that LC was in psychosis but that MA law does not require this proof, it requires the prosecution to show she was not in psychosis.'

How could they prove that though, how can you prove a negative?
I think the fact that she was apparently only psychotic for the period of time she killed her kids is handy for her! If that was accepted as a get out clause for killing her kids (by being found NGRI), it sets a very dangerous precedent for all future cases. What is to stop anyone claiming that they were psychotic during the crime they committed.

As I've said before upthread and I know you have also @CloverAndGrass, the proof of her insanity seems to be the committing of the crime. It's a circular argument to say that only someone insane would commit such a crime, therefore she has to be guilty by reason of insanity. By that argument, the proof of her innocence is the committing of the crime!

If she's found guilty she will be a vulnerable prisoner, if she's in hospital she may be safer, whatever the decision her life is in ruins and she must feel tormented.