Lindsay Clancy case: was it evil, or severe mental illness?

There are no inconsistencies. There is no evidence needed to prove her guilt because the evidence has already been examined. We won’t see it in court because it’s not needed.

She decided she was going to kill herself and she was taking the children with her. She also wanted PC to find her, hence the timings.

Im not sure why these three children’s lives mean so little that their murderer receives so much support. I want her found guilty. I don’t really care what happens to her after that.

Apparently yes, but many, many inconsistencies in what happened, how it happened etc etc

I know everyone reacts differently to grief, but who goes hiking three weeks after their three children are murdered and writes a review complaining about a 17 dollar fee? Hiking yes, clear your head, find peace with nature, but a review and a complaint? He was also with the woman he is now married too.

That’s just one example of his very strange behaviour. In my opinion.

Well the trial has collapsed as the jury could not agree, so it's not just observers who are not sure. One juror refused to go along with the other 11 apparently, but we don't know if the 11 found her G or NG.

Anyhow I believe she was very ill. Planning this was not impossible in the throes of psychosis.

There was a case in Ireland recently where the mother, also a nurse killed her three children. She was found not guilty but insane and is being held in secure psychiatric prison/hospital. It was a horribly similar case.

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57190882

Apparently yes, but many, many inconsistencies in what happened, how it happened etc etc

I know everyone reacts differently to grief, but who goes hiking three weeks after their three children are murdered and writes a review complaining about a 17 dollar fee? Hiking yes, clear your head, find peace with nature, but a review and a complaint? He was also with the woman he is now married too.

That’s just one example of his very strange behaviour. In my opinion.

I also cannot imagine being unable to tell the difference between family annihilators and women with post-natal psychosis. Genuinely.

As has been said, speak to anyone who has been in/worked in a psych setting. People in psychosis usually seem very flat and calm and it's only once you get them talking that you realise they are completely and detatched from reality.

The term evil has no place in a court of law, it’s supernatural terminology and implies that horrific acts are part of that persons intrinsic nature and gets rid of their culpability.

we use the terminology to make us feel more comfortable that there was something so deeply ‘wrong’ with that person that they could never be us ‘normal’ people. Lindsay wasn’t ‘evil’ she’s a human.

This. I remember after having my child (which was an emergency c-section after a long labour) I didn’t sleep for 3 nights after surgery because my DH wasn’t allowed to stay and my baby was cluster feeding at my breast. I remember hallucinating on the last night and I thought I saw a midwife that wasn’t there. I ended up shining my phone light in my eyes just to try and stay awake so that I didn’t drop my baby. I think as well as extreme sleep deprivation I also suffered from PTSD after my section as there were many nights afterwards where I experienced sleep paralysis and heard voices. I remember one night I woke up and I swore I heard someone say ‘aww baby, baby’ and I was struck with fear and shook my husband awake and said to turn the light on so I could check that the baby was ok as I thought someone was in the room. I believed it was real and I was too scared for my baby to be in that room without me being there. It was terrifying. But I was totally functional during the day so nobody would’ve known. I don’t believe it was postpartum psychosis but I do believe it was the result of PTSD and sleep deprivation and that was scary enough.

if You can’t relate to what the women are saying they see in her story then consider yourself very fortunate.

i sadly can.

to regale you with a few stories from my own life. I had severe ante natal anxiety with my first baby, im talking about not sleeping, spiralling etc, there were a few medical scares, i was being bullied at work and i come from an abusive home, it caused my child to be born small. I referred myself to the local therapies, they rejected me because I was too articulate. So background of worrying. Unbeknownst to me she has tongue tie and I was consumed with the need to breastfeed but because she was unable to, she didn’t sleep, so for close to 3 months I survived on 2 hours sleep a day. I manage to get referred to the peri natal mental health team, they came to visit and I explicitly told them I don’t feel safe, and I was having thoughts of ending my own life, and even when I lay down to sleep I couldn’t, the room what shake and I wasn’t sure what was real anymore (I was starting to have micro sleeps where the brain starts to basically shut off). My husband knew, but was working so needed his sleep too. I told my parents. I told the health visitors and the GP but everyone was so busy affirming me they didn’t listen to a word I said.

in my most recent pregnancy knowing how low I felt post partum after my first and keen to get support I got referred again, was told no, reach out to us again if you’re at crisis point, and there are plenty of online resources. So basically either google it or you’re ready to take a life.

whilst I never became dangerous, I fundamentally believed I was a risk, and tbh rightly so, because I was so sleep deprived I was hallucinating.

Why are people so desperate to liken themselves to her? All the "it could have been me" videos on social media, they're sick.

So then what does psychosis actually mean? Because Lindsay Clancy says its a male voice in her head telling her to kill her children, which just happened to come on for the duration of time she killed her children, 18 minutes, and her words are that it hasn't happened before or since. This is what the case essentially rests on. The expert psychologist in court said that this would be very very unusual pattern of pscychosis. In other words, he thinks she is lying. And so do I.

So then what does psychosis actually mean? Because Lindsay Clancy says its a male voice in her head telling her to kill her children, which just happened to come on for the duration of time she killed her children, 18 minutes, and her words are that it hasn't happened before or since. This is what the case essentially rests on. The expert psychologist in court said that this would be very very unusual pattern of pscychosis. In other words, he thinks she is lying. And so do I.

I think I just can't imagine not understanding how psychosis works. I don't understand how so many people are unable to grasp the concept of psychosis. Of course someone in active psychosis can plan things/conceal things in accordance with their delusions, whilst completely detached from reality.

Why are people so desperate to liken themselves to her? All the "it could have been me" videos on social media, they're sick.

Agree!! So many ignorant comments all over social media

Agree!! So many ignorant comments all over social media

I think I just can't imagine not understanding how psychosis works. I don't understand how so many people are unable to grasp the concept of psychosis. Of course someone in active psychosis can plan things/conceal things in accordance with their delusions, whilst completely detached from reality.

She sent her husband out on a fool's errand-an errand that she had earlier timed by looking it up on her phone.

She then led her her three children down into the basement.

Were they frightened at this stage or had she told them they were going to play a game or look for something?

She took the first child, while the other two looked on and strangled the child with an exercise band.

The child must have been terrified, begging and she carried on while the cries of the two children who were waiting their turn to be murdered, cried and screamed .

When she had finished and knew the child was dead, she moved on to the second child and, with an exercise band, strangled the child.

She then took the terrified third child and strangled them with an exercise band.

All this shit about about whether she was evil or mad. She may have been both.

It doesn't matter a shit and, if it is found to matter a shit, then a lot more women and children will die at the hands of men who offer up the same defence.

I find it interesting that she is in court trying to defend herself.

I, and I imagine many many mothers who, if they had done this evil act, would have no interest in defending themselves; would just want to either die or wouldn't care about the rest of their life.

She does.

She is a cunt. An evil cunt. She may be a mad, evil cunt but cunt is what she is and I wouldn't give a toss if her arse was introduced to the electric chair and, if she is repentant, nor should she!