Lindsay Clancy case: was it evil, or severe mental illness?

Posts like this are indicative that something very strange is going on in relation to these murders. I have heard it described as Karmelo Anthony for white women and I can see why. For anyone who hasn’t heard of KA, he is a young black man in the US who murdered a white young man and, despite it being a pretty open and shut conviction, received huge support from many, mainly black, people, with huge sums raised and so on).

I am not comparing people wildly claiming that LC did not kill her children and/or that her exh did to those saying she should not be found guilty of first degree murder. Obviously these approaches are worlds apart. But I do think everyone should consider the extreme responses this case has raised - women dressing up in pink to stand outside the courthouse, the huge sums raised, the TikTok videos of women holding their babIes saying “Same, Lindsay”, the grinning and winking woman journalist etc etc - and should ask what on earth is going on to cause this.

If a woman had left a mentally ill man with her babies she’d be done for negligent homocide. Equal rights equal responsibility. He had a duty of care to those children too

You clearly don’t understand mental illness then.

many people who commit suicide are outwardly happy the days before because they know their anguish will soon end. Lots of suicides take a lot of planning but it doesn’t mean the person was of sound mind.

Planning and “acting normal” are not signs that the person was ok - quite the opposite.

Posts like this are indicative that something very strange is going on in relation to these murders. I have heard it described as Karmelo Anthony for white women and I can see why. For anyone who hasn’t heard of KA, he is a young black man in the US who murdered a white young man and, despite it being a pretty open and shut conviction, received huge support from many, mainly black, people, with huge sums raised and so on).

I am not comparing people wildly claiming that LC did not kill her children and/or that her exh did to those saying she should not be found guilty of first degree murder. Obviously these approaches are worlds apart. But I do think everyone should consider the extreme responses this case has raised - women dressing up in pink to stand outside the courthouse, the huge sums raised, the TikTok videos of women holding their babIes saying “Same, Lindsay”, the grinning and winking woman journalist etc etc - and should ask what on earth is going on to cause this.

I’m sorry you were so unsupported. A friend of mine experienced post partum psychosis, but hers was picked up immediately and she was sent to psychiatric hospital where she remained for some time.

Woman kills her children. Let's find a man to blame.

You don’t for one second think this would be a better defence than she did it but she’s not criminally responsible? You tell me why her lawyer has not chosen this defence for her? From the very start why did he not see all that you’ve figured out?

Are you far more clever than he is? Or do you think he’s seen the amount of evidence against her and chose a whole different route to go down? Just because you have not seen the evidence does not mean it’s not there.

Why are people acting like she did it when there was no real police investigation and the jury couldn’t convict (11-1) because of reasonable doubt?!
and also where is the outrage at the police for doing such a shoddy investigation (three children now won’t get proper justice) and the father for at best leaving them with her knowing how much meds she was on and how mentally ill she was and then swanning around with his new pregnant gf?

Lack of forensic evidence on the murder weapons
inconsistency in the ‘confession’
a contaminated confession
his own mother supporting Lindsay in court
rhe jury deliberating longer than the police investigated
the behaviour of the husbnad
most of the evidence is ‘Patrick said’ and a woman should not be convicted on the hearsay of her husband. Sets a v bad precedent

You clearly don’t understand mental illness then.

many people who commit suicide are outwardly happy the days before because they know their anguish will soon end. Lots of suicides take a lot of planning but it doesn’t mean the person was of sound mind.

Planning and “acting normal” are not signs that the person was ok - quite the opposite.

Thank you lovely!

and I think what makes it more sad, is that I’m not that special you know, many many other women have stories similar to mine, the founder of pregnant then screwed posted something similar.

i even forgot in my post that I’d said to the HV I think I should give up my parental rights and we should consider adoption, I’d forgotten that detail but that’s how concerned I was that I wasn’t safe.

i had gaps in my memory, where I’d remember being in one room and then next thing I’d be in another without the baby and I had no recollection how I got there. That led to hugely instrusive thoughts that I’d shaken the baby and just wouldn’t know.

i had dreams where I was dangerous, that when I would wake up i genuinely didn’t know if they were real or not.

i remember the peri natal team recommending mum and baby groups and saying but im sleeping an hour a day, I don’t think I can be behind a wheel of a car safely, In fact I don’t feel safe at all. They sent me a dvd on baby massage to do at home.

Posts like this are indicative that something very strange is going on in relation to these murders. I have heard it described as Karmelo Anthony for white women and I can see why. For anyone who hasn’t heard of KA, he is a young black man in the US who murdered a white young man and, despite it being a pretty open and shut conviction, received huge support from many, mainly black, people, with huge sums raised and so on).

I am not comparing people wildly claiming that LC did not kill her children and/or that her exh did to those saying she should not be found guilty of first degree murder. Obviously these approaches are worlds apart. But I do think everyone should consider the extreme responses this case has raised - women dressing up in pink to stand outside the courthouse, the huge sums raised, the TikTok videos of women holding their babIes saying “Same, Lindsay”, the grinning and winking woman journalist etc etc - and should ask what on earth is going on to cause this.

Posts like this are indicative that something very strange is going on in relation to these murders. I have heard it described as Karmelo Anthony for white women and I can see why. For anyone who hasn’t heard of KA, he is a young black man in the US who murdered a white young man and, despite it being a pretty open and shut conviction, received huge support from many, mainly black, people, with huge sums raised and so on).

I am not comparing people wildly claiming that LC did not kill her children and/or that her exh did to those saying she should not be found guilty of first degree murder. Obviously these approaches are worlds apart. But I do think everyone should consider the extreme responses this case has raised - women dressing up in pink to stand outside the courthouse, the huge sums raised, the TikTok videos of women holding their babIes saying “Same, Lindsay”, the grinning and winking woman journalist etc etc - and should ask what on earth is going on to cause this.

I don’t think she did it at all. I think he did it. He never expected her to survive.

I want to know how society is served by putting her in prison? I think we are all safer if she spends time in an environment where she can get serious mental health treatment.

Ok, my view, yes she is evil. This does exist, I do believe some people are evil! Whether or not she had a mental illness or psychosis (unlikely as baby was 8 months old) doesn't mean she is one or the other. She killed her children in the most violent way.

Because she needs to (a) be punished for killing 3 children, (b) other people need to be deterred from killing their kids and (c) she should never be released and be given the opportunity to get pregnant and kill more kids.

I am really sorry to hear this. 💐

Because she needs to (a) be punished for killing 3 children, (b) other people need to be deterred from killing their kids and (c) she should never be released and be given the opportunity to get pregnant and kill more kids.

I want to know how society is served by putting her in prison? I think we are all safer if she spends time in an environment where she can get serious mental health treatment.