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Lindsay Clancy case: was it evil, or severe mental illness?

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KellyK2026 · 04/09/2026 16:50

Lindsay Clancy, what do we all think? Pure evil or mentally ill?

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Aluna · Yesterday 08:55

StraightTalkingTina · Yesterday 08:45

But she did. She voluntarily went in to mental health hospital for 5 days and they discharged her with another round of meds.

Has she not been discharged, if her Bi Polar diagnosis was identified then , those children would still be alive.

Seeing the quality of one particular psychiatrist when LC was an impatient was salutary - she didn’t even understand the questions posed by the lawyer. LC was discharged with a link to Psychology Today which is an online magazine.

Rosieroneday · Yesterday 08:52

I think some of these answers are a good insight into why a jury of ordinary people being responsible for someone’s fate is a terrible idea.

Aluna · Yesterday 08:52

Viviennemary · Yesterday 08:51

I agree. Mental health issues are no excuse for murdering three small children. No more than schizophrenia is why Peter Sutcliffe bludgeoned multiple women to death or Fred West's crimes were due to learning difficulties. The more I hear these excuses I despair.

And this is a classic example of the level of lay understanding of mental illness.

Aluna · Yesterday 08:51

CloverAndGrass · Yesterday 08:22

It’s not that many people don’t understand psychosis. It’s that many people do not believe LC was in psychosis. The main “evidence” that she was appears to be that she murdered her children and that she says she was. Many people do not find this convincing.

They don’t believe she was in it because they don’t understand it. Thus they parrot the prosecution line without appreciating that it’s legal argument rather than a psychiatric one.

I will give you an example of a case that I have personal experience of: where a person with diagnosed schizophrenia killed another person when they were off their meds driven by auditory hallucinations. The prosecution case found a psychiatrist prepared to testify that they weren’t schizophrenic they were just a bad person. That served a legal end but not a psychiatric one.

This is why an adversarial court is not an appropriate place to evaluate the issue of diagnosis of LC. It would need a multidisciplinary panel involving psychiatrists specialising in bipolar and ppp, psychiatric nurses, specialists in women’s health.

Viviennemary · Yesterday 08:51

Clarenewme · Yesterday 08:36

Exactly. She knew she was a risk to her children, as she said she had thoughts of harming them. She had access to a nanny, she had the option of saying ‘I’m stepping away right now to get well and I want to safeguard my children.’ Did she? NO.
She wanted control and the children paid their lives for it. It’s absolutely disgusting.

I agree. Mental health issues are no excuse for murdering three small children. No more than schizophrenia is why Peter Sutcliffe bludgeoned multiple women to death or Fred West's crimes were due to learning difficulties. The more I hear these excuses I despair.

StraightTalkingTina · Yesterday 08:50

EasternStandard · Yesterday 08:43

If only the dc didn’t have to be part of that plan too.

A psychotic belief is reality to someone trapped in hallucagenic psychosis.

Se couldn’t determine that what she believed she needed to do wasn’t real. Because it was.

Disappointed100 · Yesterday 08:48

CloverAndGrass · Yesterday 08:41

Excellent post

On waking in hospital, her first thoughts were for her own welfare - should my get a lawyer, is my body broken, how are my legs - not her children.

This is so chilling

Because she didn't know her children were hurt, or remember what happened?

StraightTalkingTina · Yesterday 08:45

Clarenewme · Yesterday 08:36

Exactly. She knew she was a risk to her children, as she said she had thoughts of harming them. She had access to a nanny, she had the option of saying ‘I’m stepping away right now to get well and I want to safeguard my children.’ Did she? NO.
She wanted control and the children paid their lives for it. It’s absolutely disgusting.

But she did. She voluntarily went in to mental health hospital for 5 days and they discharged her with another round of meds.

Has she not been discharged, if her Bi Polar diagnosis was identified then , those children would still be alive.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 08:43

Aluna · Yesterday 08:38

Once he’s out of the house she had the opportunity to carry out a delusional plan that her mind may have been fretting over for some time.

She had reported suicidal ideation to for some time.

It’s not uncommon for suicidal people to seize an opportunity when they are unsupervised to kill themselves.

If only the dc didn’t have to be part of that plan too.

CloverAndGrass · Yesterday 08:41

mulberrymilk · Yesterday 00:59

Fascinating that more than 11 treating doctors, several of them psychiatrists, several of them working in the field of post-partum mental health, came to a different diagnosis to you - who have never met her, let alone attempted to treat her - and all have firmly stated she showed no signs of psychosis.

She was prescribed multiple medications but didn't take any of them consistently enough to see results (many of these medications start taking effect only after 4-5 weeks of continuous use). As a nurse, she knew this. She did not adhere to any of her medications - execept for the benzos.

She was discharged after one day from Women and Infant's hospital because team the clinical team in the postpartum depression program believed her symptoms were "more pharmacologically induced than purely depressive."

She was referred to three other hospitals but did not follow up on the referrals.

She was admitted to psychiatric facilities on multiple occasions but checked herself out of them after a few days. She did not go to therapy consistently outside of these brief stays.

She told her major treating psychiatrist the day before she murdered her children that she had no thoughts of suicide or homicide. She was playing in the snow with the children, building them a snowman, before she sent her husband off on that series of erands - the timing of which she mapped out on her phone prior - that allowed her the window to strangle them one after the other.

On waking in hospital, her first thoughts were for her own welfare - should my get a lawyer, is my body broken, how are my legs - not her children.

Funny kind of psychosis.

Excellent post

On waking in hospital, her first thoughts were for her own welfare - should my get a lawyer, is my body broken, how are my legs - not her children.

This is so chilling

StraightTalkingTina · Yesterday 08:40

Missey85 · Yesterday 07:51

She was given the medication she refused to take it you can't force people to take medication the doctor can prescribe it but they can't shove pills down your throat

She didn’t refuse, as pp has posted the list of meds that she was taking. All meds that have a horrible negative effect on someone who is BP.

and largely - lots of people do reject the drugs. Because they believe the drugs are keeping them ill.

Aluna · Yesterday 08:38

Makkka · 05/09/2026 23:36

Indeed, but it’s strange how hers happened most significantly when he was out the house (planned by her so not accidentally….!!)

What’s the chances that was completely a random act and timing…. I say not so much a random act!

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Once he’s out of the house she had the opportunity to carry out a delusional plan that her mind may have been fretting over for some time.

She had reported suicidal ideation to for some time.

It’s not uncommon for suicidal people to seize an opportunity when they are unsupervised to kill themselves.

CloverAndGrass · Yesterday 08:38

Waspy43 · Yesterday 06:00

Have you ever experienced post-psychosis, or supported someone through a prolonged period of severe mental illness?
One thing I’ve learned is that severe mental illness doesn’t always look the way people expect it to.
Someone can be in the depths of a serious episode and still appear completely lucid. They can hold a normal conversation, make plans, organise things, communicate clearly and appear to know exactly what they’re doing.
Being able to “plan” or appear rational doesn’t necessarily mean someone isn’t severely unwell. Psychosis isn’t always obvious from the outside, and someone can retain certain abilities while their perception of reality is significantly altered.
Even after the episode, they may appear completely lucid and be able to talk about what happened, sometimes with a surprisingly clear memory of events.
I think there’s a huge misconception that someone experiencing severe mental illness must constantly appear confused, irrational or completely detached from reality.
That simply isn’t always the case.
Sometimes the most difficult episodes are the ones that other people don’t recognise because the person appears so completely “normal.”
Mental illness can be incredibly complex, and you can’t always see what is happening beneath the surface

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I have been through a long period of severe mental illness.

What evidence have you seen that LC was in psychosis other than that she murdered her children and claimed that a voice told her to do so?

Clarenewme · Yesterday 08:36

Littlebitpsycho · 04/09/2026 17:39

I don't think being mentally ill excuses her to be honest. Many women suffer post partum depression. Some women suffer post partum psychosis. Very very few of them MURDER their children.

She knew she was unwell. She had thought previously that she was capable of hurting them. She could have walked away and didn't

Exactly. She knew she was a risk to her children, as she said she had thoughts of harming them. She had access to a nanny, she had the option of saying ‘I’m stepping away right now to get well and I want to safeguard my children.’ Did she? NO.
She wanted control and the children paid their lives for it. It’s absolutely disgusting.

Aluna · Yesterday 08:34

Missey85 · Yesterday 07:51

She was given the medication she refused to take it you can't force people to take medication the doctor can prescribe it but they can't shove pills down your throat

In hospital she was found to have antidepressants, antipsychotics, and benzodiazepines in her blood. She was prescribed 13 different medications across multiple providers between late 2022 and Jan 2023.

She was given different drugs trying to treat the symptoms but the drugs either didn’t work or had bad side effects that were difficult to cope with. Ultimately she wasn’t correctly diagnosed and she kept being passed from one provider to another and given different drugs none of which were alleviating thé symptoms.

There was not sufficient joined up thinking in her care.

CloverAndGrass · Yesterday 08:33

EvieBB · Yesterday 02:48

Seriously though, anyone who does something as horrific as this(whether pre-planned or not) has got to be mentally ill. No sane person would ever do this - whether planned or not.

Do you believe all parents who murder their children should be found not guilty by reason of insanity then? Just mothers maybe?

CloverAndGrass · Yesterday 08:22

TerribleEntrepreneur · 05/09/2026 22:14

It’s horrifying in 2026 that so many people still have no real concept of what psychosis is. Your brain, like your heart and liver, is an organ. It can go wrong. Psychosis leaves you unable to trust your senses or memory, in a different reality to everyone else. It’s terrifying for you and for those around you. It is no more a character flaw than heart disease is, and it can happen to any of us at any time. It happened to my 85-year-old Nan during lockdown, one of the sweetest and gentlest people I’ve ever met.

Believe me. You do not, in psychosis, “know what you are doing”. That’s rather the crux of it.

It’s not that many people don’t understand psychosis. It’s that many people do not believe LC was in psychosis. The main “evidence” that she was appears to be that she murdered her children and that she says she was. Many people do not find this convincing.

SulkingInTheCatio · Yesterday 08:00

Missey85 · Yesterday 07:51

She was given the medication she refused to take it you can't force people to take medication the doctor can prescribe it but they can't shove pills down your throat

But surely her refusal to take it is part of being mentally unwell? I don’t know what the answer is but i believe non compliance with meds is quite common. How this is monitored I don’t know. But I know a friend who was unwell and not taking her meds was sectioned and yes she then was forced to take them.

Missey85 · Yesterday 07:51

StraightTalkingTina · Yesterday 06:42

We need to remember she has since been diagnosed as BI-Polar. BPD and the wrong medication can also lead to psychosis. Combining that with PPD and the meds for that was disastrous.

She was failed because they didn’t assess her properly. They treated the symptoms, without identifying the true cause.

And sadly. This happens all the time. Especially in women.

She was given the medication she refused to take it you can't force people to take medication the doctor can prescribe it but they can't shove pills down your throat

EverMerge · Yesterday 07:38

Disappointed100 · Yesterday 02:14

It's very basic anatomy, no medical person would have to google it

That is a presumption. You can’t say it’s fact without quizzing every medical profession. You think it’s true, but in a court of law “Disappointed100 said so” wouldn’t hold much sway.

mulberrymilk · Yesterday 06:54

StraightTalkingTina · Yesterday 06:42

We need to remember she has since been diagnosed as BI-Polar. BPD and the wrong medication can also lead to psychosis. Combining that with PPD and the meds for that was disastrous.

She was failed because they didn’t assess her properly. They treated the symptoms, without identifying the true cause.

And sadly. This happens all the time. Especially in women.

She barely took any of her prescribed meds, and certainly not for any length of time when she did try them (apart from the benzos).

StraightTalkingTina · Yesterday 06:42

Aluna · 05/09/2026 20:22

There’s a late onset window of up to 12 months for first onset psychotic episodes.

I’m not a medic but afaik beyond 3 to 6 months, onset of psychotic symptoms is generally evaluated as onset of an underlying mood or psychotic disorder (eg bipolar or depressive disorder with psychotic features rather than an immediate hormone-triggered acute puerperal psychosis.

We need to remember she has since been diagnosed as BI-Polar. BPD and the wrong medication can also lead to psychosis. Combining that with PPD and the meds for that was disastrous.

She was failed because they didn’t assess her properly. They treated the symptoms, without identifying the true cause.

And sadly. This happens all the time. Especially in women.

Waspy43 · Yesterday 06:06

TerribleEntrepreneur · 05/09/2026 22:14

It’s horrifying in 2026 that so many people still have no real concept of what psychosis is. Your brain, like your heart and liver, is an organ. It can go wrong. Psychosis leaves you unable to trust your senses or memory, in a different reality to everyone else. It’s terrifying for you and for those around you. It is no more a character flaw than heart disease is, and it can happen to any of us at any time. It happened to my 85-year-old Nan during lockdown, one of the sweetest and gentlest people I’ve ever met.

Believe me. You do not, in psychosis, “know what you are doing”. That’s rather the crux of it.

One thing I’ve learned is that severe mental illness doesn’t always look the way people expect it to.
Someone can be in the depths of a serious episode and still appear completely lucid. They can hold a normal conversation, make plans, organise things, communicate clearly and appear to know exactly what they’re doing.
Being able to “plan” or appear rational doesn’t necessarily mean someone isn’t severely unwell. Psychosis isn’t always obvious from the outside, and someone can retain certain abilities while their perception of reality is significantly altered.
Even after the episode, they may appear completely lucid and be able to talk about what happened, sometimes with a surprisingly clear memory of events.
I think there’s a huge misconception that someone experiencing severe mental illness must constantly appear confused, irrational or completely detached from reality.
That simply isn’t always the case.
Sometimes the most difficult episodes are the ones that other people don’t recognise because the person appears so completely “normal.”
Mental illness can be incredibly complex, and you can’t always see what is happening beneath the surface

Waspy43 · Yesterday 06:00

CloverAndGrass · 04/09/2026 17:05

If it was mental illness, it was a strangely carefully planned case of loss of control, with the unusual ability to talk calmly to her husband in the middle of the murders and know she shouldn’t tell him what she was doing. I find it very hard to understand how people can read the details and still believe she didn’t chose to murder her poor children.

Have you ever experienced post-psychosis, or supported someone through a prolonged period of severe mental illness?
One thing I’ve learned is that severe mental illness doesn’t always look the way people expect it to.
Someone can be in the depths of a serious episode and still appear completely lucid. They can hold a normal conversation, make plans, organise things, communicate clearly and appear to know exactly what they’re doing.
Being able to “plan” or appear rational doesn’t necessarily mean someone isn’t severely unwell. Psychosis isn’t always obvious from the outside, and someone can retain certain abilities while their perception of reality is significantly altered.
Even after the episode, they may appear completely lucid and be able to talk about what happened, sometimes with a surprisingly clear memory of events.
I think there’s a huge misconception that someone experiencing severe mental illness must constantly appear confused, irrational or completely detached from reality.
That simply isn’t always the case.
Sometimes the most difficult episodes are the ones that other people don’t recognise because the person appears so completely “normal.”
Mental illness can be incredibly complex, and you can’t always see what is happening beneath the surface

EvieBB · Yesterday 02:48

Makkka · 05/09/2026 23:36

Indeed, but it’s strange how hers happened most significantly when he was out the house (planned by her so not accidentally….!!)

What’s the chances that was completely a random act and timing…. I say not so much a random act!

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Seriously though, anyone who does something as horrific as this(whether pre-planned or not) has got to be mentally ill. No sane person would ever do this - whether planned or not.