The Diplomat Netflix season 4

Just watched the last episode, what a belter!! I loved it.

I felt like I was getting the politics better by the end of the season, I had a few moments where I rewound an earlier episode as I hadnt followed well.

I might have to rewatch some favourite West Wing episodes whilst I await season 5.

What storyline/moment do people see as the jumping the shark moment?

Netflix hasn't yet confirmed a 5th season. They can't leave it on that cliffhanger!

OK, she's not officially a diplomat any more - but I NEED to see how it unfolds! I appreciated the way they were working current issues into the storyline - must be tricky; they have to anticipate what's going to happen without going in too hard and looking stupid if they fall wide of the mark. They'll certainly have a lot to work with on the next season.

They missed the riots in Europe but they did have some unruly demos, so I'll forgive them.

I loved the Leader Of The Free World becoming increasingly, impulsively, dangerously aggressive. And the presidential spouse suddenly taking over diplomatic duties? Prescient!

I’m an older git, I knew what it meant, I just like hearing how others picture phrases that have become well known. Liked the thread recently that asked what do you think a tromboleese is!

He picked her. He chose her. It was one of the most powerfully romantic gestures of love that I’ve seen in recent times. I love this series. And season 4 didn’t disappoint. The complexity of power, love, marriage, politics, treachery. Bloody marvellous!

Ha, intrigued to hear what you thought it meant. Not in a mean way, genuinely find it interesting how people picture different things.

I thought this about season 3. I wasn’t going to bother with season 4, should I?

Even more parallels now that Melania has now got involved and secured a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine 🤭

Ok I loved the first 2 seasons; was just about ok with the third even though it jumped the shark; but my God, this season is so awful. The constant arguments in public and the constant blurring of lines between their private life and public roles is so tedious. I work adjacent to people in these positions- no one behaves like her, ever. And no one in her position would have access to half the information that she does. And it is so insulting to the UK (I’m Irish so I shouldn’t even notice this but I do).

I don't know why she wasnt upset about Denison. I was REALLY upset 🫪

I had never watched the Diplomat, but recently got Netflix and starting watching it as a recommended series by some on Telly Addicts.

I hadn't realised a new season was just starting, so have gone from Episode 1 Series 1 through to the last episode of series 4.

Maybe this complete binge watch didn't do the series any favours, but was already finding it a bit samey and in fact as Hal said right at the end, you should have left me.

I thought there on off relationship was just implausible.

And as for the politics - seriously!!!!!!!!

Funnily enough I did think it was almost written as a response to the relentless criticism of the misogyny of the West Wing, so couldn't believe it when Allison Janney and Bradley Whitford both turned up. (She had publicly complained about the West Wing)

Anyhow, although some bits I got a good laugh at, whether meant to or not. And why the Brits had to put up with pushy Yanks have no idea.

If there are any more episodes it will become as ridiculous as Homeland did.

However I did have a soft spot for Stuart.

Sort of sorry as was looking forward for something with a bit of depth.

It's not just me then!

I feel like there is a lot of sub-text and switching between political and personal/relationship problems that I miss.

Have now finished watching and wished that the ending would happen with Trump!

Todd reminds me of Dylan the rabbit in Magic Roundabout.
I did wonder whether Todd would be clever and had a cunning plan but seems just to be stupid. Couldn’t work his character out initially .
Still think ‘Windsor Castle’ was stupid !

It’s part of their “thing”, they’re always blooming arguing. It really irritated me at first, but actually I’ve got into it more now. They’re married, they’re frustrated with each other, situation normal! I quite like the way that one minute I think how does she put up with him, and the next I’m thinking it in reverse. Maybe it makes me feel smug that I’m single 😂

Anyone else think that some of this has been a subtle nod re Trump? A president that’s a bit unhinged, got shot but not fatal, making snap decisions without thinking things through - meanwhile, their team are trying to navigate how to handle this individual that kind of doesn’t give a flying fudge about anyone else on the global stage.

Sorry but it was a let down

And "Windsor Castle" was just ridiculous.

I’m two episodes in and all it seems to be is Hal and Kate arguing. The first episode just seemed to be one long scene of them sparring with each other. Hopefully it’ll improve.

Just had this thought regarding the links with the West Wing, The Diplomat and Deborah Cahn...

In one episode of the West Wing, the character Josh Lyman referred to Donna as "Gracie"...in another episode, Donna had a date with a guy called Todd she was wearing that red dress...

Do you think Deborah chose the character names, knowing full well who she'd want to cast as Grace and Todd?

eta, I know Allison played CJ, but at the end of 7 seasons, Josh and Donna were finally a couple - hence Grace and Todd.

Love it. I did gasp when Eidra said what she said at the end even though it's consistent with her character.

Brilliant casting and script!

Just watched the last episode. Brilliant, what an ending. Alison Janey is superbly malevolent!