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roaringdragon · 30/08/2026 15:27

Everyone is welcome, and the thread disappears after 90 days.

Thank you for the last thread @lougle. I hope the doctor was helpful and DD2 isn’t feeling too rubbish this morning.

DS1 has used the last of his EOTAS hours today. There will be at least a few weeks before the EHCP is finalised and funding restarts. He will hopefully have his operation during that time, but it is still going to feel like a long time without that provision.

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roaringdragon · 07/09/2026 19:44

@Violasilkie I hope you find a workable solution.

DS1 had 3 roast potatoes and a carrot baton today. The most he has eaten orally in quite a while.

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Violasilkie · 07/09/2026 18:53

Thanks @Fififizz I think ours in theory has an app but DS has managed to deactivate it - he took the whole boiler apart before during the night and he can break into everything. He caused chaos in hospital taking out every fire alarm and a lot of their security alarms just to annoy them as they were annoying him. He even got through metal before.

Violasilkie · 07/09/2026 18:50

Thanks @Lougle The boiler issue is as we will be adding a bath to the downstairs bathroom in theory which adds a zone 1 meaning the boiler plug cannot be used as insufficient distance. So from looking it up options are either a fused spur, we don't think just moving socket outside will be an option due to distance / doors etc or to move boiler. Though we need to check with plumber and electrician what is possible. DH is very keen on moving boiler. But it will just be in the next room a few metres from where it is now and it'll still be hearable so I think DS will still switch it off though who knows. It would be nicer moved but suspect it'll be about £1.5k to move it though will need to get quote. Personally would just do the fused spur but DH is really keen on moving it but we need a decision before we can carry on with project as it affects sink location, type of sink, worktop, plumbing, electrics.

Fififizz · 07/09/2026 18:49

@Lougle

I wondered about boxing it in with a padlock. A student digs I once lived in did this to prevent over use of the heating! You can get some boilers somehow controlled by a Hive phone app now I think too but I have no idea how those work.

Lougle · 07/09/2026 18:30

Can you just have it boxed in with a lockable cabinet @Violasilkie ?

Or if he's flipping a switch something like this cover could help.

It seems a bit extreme to relocate the boiler.

Violasilkie · 07/09/2026 18:18

Thanks @LathkillDale Yes I think they would make sense to put together, its just cost of moving the boiler and also one plumber came out and said there may be an issue with where we would need to put sink due to distance from drain which is in downstairs bathroom. I think its still possible its whether it will cause issues with the sink and how they plumb it. We need a second plumber around anyway to assess as that one doesn't do gas boilers. Its potentially a better solution but likely another £1.5k on the bill and I was originally trying to do things as low cost as possible. But that's kind of gone out the window. 😂

LathkillDale · 07/09/2026 18:07

@Lougle - our boiler and the electric central control unit (or whatever it is) are both in our utility room, with the sink, washing machine and tumble drier. I believe it’s the fashion to have them all together? A central control room or something like that?

(We had it done as part of our extension, as we needed a power vent system to get the water to a shower upstairs and downstairs, a long way from the tank in the loft).

Violasilkie · 07/09/2026 17:43

Hope the funeral goes as well as it can @drspouse

Sorry about DD2 @Lougle hope its solvable.

Trying to decide what to do about boiler - I think choices will be either move it to laundry room which is next door but will be expensive and may cause issues with having a sink or to get a fused spur though are trying to confirm with electrician and plumber and project on hold until we can resolve.

DH wants to move the boiler and says then DS won't switch it off. I think he'll still switch it off and it'll be very expensive to move and may jeopardise the sink and I want a sink. Hopefully a solution can be found but its going to raise costs again. If by some miracle DS does stop turning the boiler off then it will pay for itself in a year but I have low expectations with DS. And even then they are still too high at times. I ordered 2 packets of blackberries so DS would have one and we had one but nope in less than 24 hours both have gone. Trying to get plumber round to find a solution.

Whilst waiting for that went to do gardening with DH - just clearing leaves and cleaning from silkies. Go back in and realise DS in still in the bath so we go back out and garden some more and plant some daffodils and hyacinth. There was a branch down as well which we cleared looked like DS may have pulled it down by accident. That's all sorted along with the clementine peel and apples he left round the garden. The silkies were very happy and singing. I really hope they don't dig up the bulbs. Then he came downstairs so we came back in and I could have a bath and DH has gone to piano lesson. The neighbour has their tree surgeon in tomorrow also coming into our garden but have pre warned DS.

Fififizz · 07/09/2026 17:00

@roaringdragon

Yes, it’s gone. Thank you!

LathkillDale · 07/09/2026 16:50

@roaringdragon Thank you for the swift reply. Yes, it is another disabled person failed big time!

roaringdragon · 07/09/2026 16:44

@Fififizz if you have reported your post, that is reporting it to MNHQ. I took so long to write my pp, that when I said ‘last post’ it wasn’t actually your last post. It is your post at 16.17 that I think gives away the school.

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Fififizz · 07/09/2026 16:41

@roaringdragon

Thank you. I had been careful but can see it’s possible to join the dots. I’ve reported my own post as a safeguarding concern. I’m not sure how to request mumsnet HQ to remove it. I’ll try and find out.

roaringdragon · 07/09/2026 16:33

@drspouse I’m glad the meds review went well. I hope the funeral goes as well as it can.

@LathkillDale another disabled person failed.

Your DS doesn’t need to withdraw the appeal and he doesn’t need a consent Order. A consent Order is only relevant when the LA has already responded to the appeal. Instead, the LA needs to notify SENDIST the appeal is unopposed.

University support is so much easier to secure, isn’t it? Although DSA has become tighter over recent years and may become more so following the consultation earlier this year.

@Fififizz unless you are happy for people to know the school, I would ask MNHQ to delete your last post. There are very few schools that cater to that cohort and it is incredibly easy to work out the school if you know it. Strangely, one of the other schools who cater to for the same cohort and is very similar to your DC’s school also rides on its previous success and good reputation and has experienced a similar decline but the slide has been even greater, IMO.

@Lougle I’m sorry DD2 didn’t manage college. That all sounds incredibly stressful and chaotic. It is frustrating that the college didn’t realise DD2 needs more. I hope the college puts together a plan that is going to work for DD2. Your house is going to be like a whole new house by the end.

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Fififizz · 07/09/2026 16:31

@LathkillDale

Good news. Never trust the LA or school! I’ll leave @roaringdragon to answer your question properly.

Fififizz · 07/09/2026 16:27

@drspouse

I hope the funeral goes well too. Sorry, I missed that it was today.

@Lougle

Oh dear. I guess with building work you expect some hitches along the way but not good about College. How appallingly bad. Have they apologised? Do they have a plan to improve things and be better?

DC got to College. I know this because I dropped DC off this morning but outreach worker said DC made it to classes. They do help them navigate around the College etc but also I e mailed a list of queries about study spaces, lunch and quiet spaces, what the study support would involve. Nothing weird or out of the ordinary for a SEN parent to ask and they’re getting back to me when they have the information. I do feel I’m visiting a parallel universe sometimes and I just want it all to stop. I hope College steps up for your DD!

LathkillDale · 07/09/2026 16:26

@roaringdragon My LA has confirmed in an email that they will do an EHCNA of DGD, seven days before they had to get their response in. Does DS need to get a consenting order from the tribunal, or can he take the LA’s word for it?

(I have known parents in the past, who cancelled a hearing because the LA promised to make provisions specific in the statement/EHC plan; before the LA issued the amended statement/EHC plan and then the LA reneged on it)

Fififizz · 07/09/2026 16:17

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Lougle · 07/09/2026 16:10

I hope the funeral goes well @drspouse .

Today has not gone well. Boiler man has been and gone - parts on order. Contractors and surveyors have been and planned works. Solar panel engineer has come and rebooted the system.

DD2 did not manage college. She was only meant to be in for 1½ hours, but firstly, we had no idea where the LSA would meet her. In the early mornings the SEN team stand at a table by the reception entrance. We found the SEN lead's room and she said we should meet the LSA outside the classroom. We went back over to the building, but DD2 didn't know where the classroom was. The building is called the North West 1 building, the classroom is S473, but the rooms a) don't have an S in front of the number, and b) don't follow a clear '1st floor/ground floor' system. By this point, DD2 was saying she wanted to go home and was hot and close to tears. We persevered and went back to reception, where we were told the room location. We got there to find no teacher, and no LSA. So we went back to the SEN lead and she explained that the LSA had messaged her to say that the previous class she was supporting in had overrun. There is no crossover time, so one class finishes at the same time as the next class starts, but the LSA has to make her way from one to the other. When DD2 heard the LSA's name she said "I don't even know who that is.", and said she couldn't do it and needed to go home.

I've explained that this isn't going to work for DD2. She needs to know who her staff will be and for them to meet her outside of the building. It isn't going to work for her to have to navigate her way through groups of students to wait for a LSA.

LathkillDale · 07/09/2026 16:08

Fififizz · 07/09/2026 14:55

@roaringdragon

Just bought that book. I hope my brain can process it. My brain cells aren’t as good as they used to be and half my attention is always on other life admin stuff too. I’m like a computer with too many windows open and things running in the background. I treated myself to the most up to date version for an extra £10. Lucky me! 🤣 I’d forgotten how expensive law books are but at least it’s paperback. Hard cover it’s £119. Thank you for recommending. I look forward to receiving it.

@LathkillDale

Yes, it’s been a constant struggle and battle and I have tried to keep on with it but with the lack of information and the sleight of hand going on it’s all been very difficult. Unfortunately as @roaringdragon has mentioned. The school is now a victim of its own previous success and reputation. @roaringdragon knows the school. She’s very clever and sussed me from the bits I mentioned. Anyway secondary education is behind us now so no point in looking back or dwelling too much on water under that particular bridge.

I would probably know the school, if you told me its name.

drspouse · 07/09/2026 15:43

I am supposed to be working today but I had a deadline that just needed tweaking and now I'm feeling like a spare wheel! The funeral is Thurs so every time I sit down to concentrate I'm reminded of that.

Fififizz · 07/09/2026 15:31

@JumpersFluffy

I have a lovely image of your calm morning walks on the heath Sounds like it’s balm for your soul.

We, have always wanted an Irish Terrier or should that be Terrible! She’s not remotely calming and with hindsight we should probably have left her unadopted. I knew they were a step up from a Boarder Terrier but she comes with additional, previous, baggage unfortunately too. She’s certainly a character and quite loving though but definitely not easy. There’s a post or maybe a thread on here about naughty dogs. Irish Terriers are featured. I didn’t read that. I watched some woman on YouTube who’s had them all her life saying how they were such amazing dogs. They likely are if you get a normal one! 🙈

Fififizz · 07/09/2026 14:55

@roaringdragon

Just bought that book. I hope my brain can process it. My brain cells aren’t as good as they used to be and half my attention is always on other life admin stuff too. I’m like a computer with too many windows open and things running in the background. I treated myself to the most up to date version for an extra £10. Lucky me! 🤣 I’d forgotten how expensive law books are but at least it’s paperback. Hard cover it’s £119. Thank you for recommending. I look forward to receiving it.

@LathkillDale

Yes, it’s been a constant struggle and battle and I have tried to keep on with it but with the lack of information and the sleight of hand going on it’s all been very difficult. Unfortunately as @roaringdragon has mentioned. The school is now a victim of its own previous success and reputation. @roaringdragon knows the school. She’s very clever and sussed me from the bits I mentioned. Anyway secondary education is behind us now so no point in looking back or dwelling too much on water under that particular bridge.

JumpersFluffy · 07/09/2026 14:00

@PurringTiger walking d-dog is the highlight of my day mostly, as I can leave DD2 home if I go out early as DD1 doesn’t leave for work until 8am. So if I get my butt in gear we have a lovely quiet hour before the madness of the day starts walking on a local heathland. It’s tricky in winter as I don’t like walking the dog off lead in the dark. Hope you enjoyed cat snuggles & DD is slowly getting back into study mode. The car ride sounds fab & such a breakthrough I hope she can sustain her progress without too much fallout / energy loss.

Fififizz · 07/09/2026 13:43

@drspouse

That’s great news. Well done. I can be a bit soft at times but try to pick my battles too. DC is like an unexploded bomb. Handle with care. I did his meds review forms, he doesn’t want to think about changing to another type as they did help with GCSE’s and focus but they’re stimulants so when he’s anxious, like now, they create issues. I did say there were other options but equally I get why titrating is a PITA and he’s scared of messing around with them. Can’t win.

@JumpersFluffy

That’s the spirit fluffy. Don’t let the bas**rds get you down.