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School say they can't meet need - what next?

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whoami24601 · 05/09/2026 08:27

Autistic DS started secondary school this week. Unfortunately his EHCP came through in July so not enough time to sort his school place before the new year.

We have requested a place in an RP for him but he has had to start the year in mainstream.

Day 1 went ok but he went to meet DD to get the bus home, and the gate was locked unexpectedly so he panicked and had a meltdown - this mostly involves trying to find a space to be alone, but obviously the teachers had to follow him to make sure he is safe. I was called and had to go collect him.

Day 2 I got a call at lunchtime. He is dysregulated and trying to find a space to be alone but again teachers are following him. During this dyregulation he has kicked and thrown things at the teacher who was there as he wanted to be left. I had to calm him down.

I spoke to the SENCo who suggested he spend some time in their Hive classroom next week (he was originally denied access to this as it is for lower ability children and he is very bright).

After school yesterday I had a call to say school cannot meet his needs due to safety issues and so he is not to attend. Is this legal? They were quoting section 19 at me but I'm not sure what that is.

They have emailed the LA to request more specialised support for him and we should find out from the RP this week whether they will accept him. Do we just wait it out? I'm absolutely gutted for him that they have given up on him so quickly 😢

I spent all last night crying and again this morning. He is a clever boy who could do well with the right support but I don't know what we can do!

Any help or advice is really appreciated. Thanks for reading.

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LittleMyLabyrinth · 10/10/2026 11:10

I don't know the legalities but it sounds bizarre to me because I'm a TA and I've had kids in class who would routinely run out of the classroom (like multiple times a day) and I would have to follow them round and round the playgrounds for hours every day (even though I was not 1-1). Other children routinely trashed classrooms or shared areas, literally breaking furniture, etc. I have been hit, kicked and another MDS I know was bitten! All that to say, not one of those children was ever excluded (though some of them absolutely should have been!). Your son sounds exactly as I would expect for an ASC kid in a new setting. Massive overreaction on the school's part imo.

whoami24601 · 15/09/2026 19:37

The school is voluntary aided. If i DM you the name of the school can you help? I'm really confused what I'm supposed to be looking for on that link!

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roaringdragon · 15/09/2026 19:20

Personally, I wouldn’t bother with mediation. I would just get the certificate and submit an appeal to SENDIST.

In terms of knowing what type of establishment the establishment is, you need to look at what it says the ‘School type’ is.

However, I don’t think this is a RP which is a separate establishment. Is the establishment name the name of the mainstream school? It can be LA led and admissions separate to the school in terms of how it runs day to day and admissions but still not be a separate registered institution.

whoami24601 · 15/09/2026 19:06

This is the info about the RP on that website. We have been told it is LA led and separate to school. Is it worth going to mediation or would you go straight to appeal on this?

School say they can't meet need - what next?
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roaringdragon · 15/09/2026 17:19

Once you have the finalised EHCP, you will be able to appeal.

This is where it becomes very important to know for certain what type of establishment the RP is. RPs come in different forms. Most are not separate registered institutions and are part of the mainstream school. A smaller (but increasing) number are satellite units of special schools but on the mainstream school’s site and pupils in these units are on the roll of the special school (sometimes also dual registered with the mainstream school). A very small minority are a separately registered establishments despite being on the site of a mainstream school. You said the RP is a separate entity rather than part of the mainstream school. You need to check this. You can check this here. This is really important for next steps.

If it is a separate entity, you need to know if it is wholly independent.

If it isn’t a separate entity and is a satellite unit of a special school, you need to know if the SS is wholly independent.

whoami24601 · 15/09/2026 13:12

@PhineyjI know! My mum (bless her) has emailed our local councillor about it so hopefully she can help. The whole decision is madness.

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Phineyj · 15/09/2026 11:11

I'm so sorry. And that's crazy isn't it: "we offer more than the mainstream but we can't meet his needs so...he should go to the mainstream?!"

whoami24601 · 15/09/2026 09:55

Thanks @roaringdragonI have everything on email. We've just had the panel decision this morning and they have declined to name the RP for DS. They are naming his mainstream school instead. Based on the response from the RP which was based on that one little snapshot of his behaviour. Absolutely gutted.

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roaringdragon · 11/09/2026 20:56

It’s great DS has been in school and happy.

Of course the school knows they were wrong. They were hoping you wouldn’t know or if you did, you wouldn’t challenge them. Well done for standing up to them.

If you don’t already have it in writing, I suggest you send an email recapping the week so you have a paper trail as evidence should you require it. For example, to show DS hasn’t been in lessons this week.

Phineyj · 11/09/2026 20:45

That's definitely progress, well done both of you!

whoami24601 · 11/09/2026 20:29

Hi sorry I've been MIA this week. I'm back at work so trying to juggle! DS went into school on Tuesday and had a really good day. He went to the breakout classroom (which we requested) and has been in there all week. Reports that he is happy but he's not accessing much in the way of lessons. That's fine for now, I just want him to be in school and happy!

School haven't admitted they were wrong but surely if they knew they were right they wouldn't have let him in?!

We hear back about the RP on Monday so we will cross that bridge when we come to it. I am realistic but quietly hopeful 🤞

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Phineyj · 11/09/2026 08:36

How's it going OP? Has DS managed to get back into school?

roaringdragon · 08/09/2026 12:26

You said the RP is a separate entity; do you know what type of establishment it is? You need to know if it is registered as a wholly independent school or not. I would guess not, but you need to know for certain.

Unless a school is wholly independent, the LA must name your preferred placement unless the LA can prove:
-The setting is unsuitable for the age, ability, aptitude or special educational needs
-Attendance would be incompatible with the provision of efficient education for others
-Attendance would be incompatible with the efficient use of resources.

If the LA can’t prove one of the above, the school can and must be named even if the placement objects. The bar to prove one of the above is high. Far higher than LAs and many placements admit. The school is trying to argue the second. It has to be something tangible and specific and is more than an “adverse effect”, “impact on” or “prejudicial to”. You should ask questions about specifics. Normally LAs rely on vague reasons but that isn’t enough. For example, start by asking questions such as what children? What incompatibility? Is it really incompatibility with efficient education or only incompatibility with providing an education in excess of what is considered an efficient standard of education? Could anything reasonably overcome the incompatibility?

whoami24601 · 08/09/2026 10:14

So the RP have come back and said they can't meet need. He'd be too disruptive to the kids already in there. The lady from the RP witnessed some of his meltdown on Friday and I think she's based it on that but that is not typical behaviour at all! With the right support he doesn't act like that! What is next? The LA say it still goes to panel but why if they've said no? Can they still name the RP if they don't want him?

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whoami24601 · 08/09/2026 07:59

I've just dropped them off. Well have to see what happens. Nervous for DH!

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roaringdragon · 07/09/2026 21:31

Be careful with SENDIASS. Some are good but too many repeat the LA’s unlawful policies. IPSEA and SOSSEN are better.

whoami24601 · 07/09/2026 20:43

Thanks for that. No response to my email saying DS will be attending. DH will accompany him to school and sit in the office all day if necessary. I'm absolutely furious! I've contacted SENDIASS who are due to call me tomorrow hopefully so we should have some backup then.

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roaringdragon · 07/09/2026 19:42

A pre-action letter is a formal legal letter warning you will take further legal action should the situation not resolve. A shot across the bow, if you will. It is a step required before you look at judicial review. That’s a bit simplistic, but you get the idea.

whoami24601 · 07/09/2026 18:34

What's that? We have escalated to the Chair of Governors already.

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roaringdragon · 07/09/2026 18:17

I’m furious on your behalf.

If the school does not back down, I think you need a pre-action letter.

whoami24601 · 07/09/2026 17:26

I'm so cross!

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whoami24601 · 07/09/2026 17:25

No-one answered the phone Hmm this was the response on email. So he has completely ignored me. I have gone back and said DS will be attending school tomorrow and then laid out what we think his day should look like for it to be the most beneficial.

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whoami24601 · 07/09/2026 17:24

Good afternoon,

Sorry I have waited until 5pm to email/make contact as I have been waiting on the local authority to come back to me as they are needed in this decision making process and planning. I have emailed them saying the matter is being escalated as per the below.

(Headteacher) is fully aware of this and is calling the LA tomorrow to escalate the matter and then following this we will be in contact to arrange a meeting regarding next steps.

Best wishes

Mr

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roaringdragon · 07/09/2026 16:37

Once DH has called, follow up with an email setting out what was discussed so you have a paper trail as evidence.

whoami24601 · 07/09/2026 15:16

I sent that info back to them but haven't heard anything. DH is going to ring them soon. If they persist we are going to refer to Governors and then higher if needed. Not the best start to our home-school relationship!

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