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Primary school what does a standardised score of 81 mean

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Sickoffamilydrama · 23/09/2021 21:29

Can anyone help me?

DD has just switched from primary to secondary and we have been given her school passport which says that the primary feedback she is Emerging/Expected.

She has SEN (we are just appealing a refusal to access for an EHCP)

Her most recent assessment at primary she got 81 standardised score which I understand to be V low on about the 9th percentile?
She was at 83 a few years ago which is about the 16th percentile?

Am I correct in thinking this is not emerging or expected?

It's probably irrelevant now as she is at secondary but I also think she needs to start this school with the correct information for them to have the full picture and help her.

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haveiahealthyheart · 23/09/2021 22:16

I just checked, standardised score of 81 is 10th centile. This means that in a perfectly average class of 30, there’d be around two who scored lower than she did.
It’s estimated that something like 20% of children have some sort of SEN, so she should probably be on the SEN register, but (depending on the criteria set locally to you) she’s unlikely to meet EHCP threshold on grounds of intellect (although there may of course be lots more factors than you’ve shared here).
I hope this is reassuring x

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Sickoffamilydrama · 23/09/2021 22:15

The scores aren't the only reason she SEN (several actually) and has had maximum support and hasn't made progress.

I can't work out the new system of below expected standard, emerging and expected when it comes to this what is the cut off ( I get the idea of it generally)? Although as I said probably irrelevant now she's at secondary.

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Jessicabrassica · 23/09/2021 22:12

www.nfer.ac.uk/media/4098/interprettingtestsguide.pdf according to this it's within the normal range, just towards the bottom end of normal.

How much specialist support does she need? I don't work in England but I'd be surprised if a student within the average range would qualify for an ehcp.

QueenofLouisiana · 23/09/2021 22:11

A standardised score of 81 on a SATs assessment (which I’m guessing is what this is), would be at the low end of scoring on the paper- roughly yr3 standard. So working within ks2 standard.
As a PP stated, thus score alone would not he sufficient evidence for an EHCP, although I often find that my secondary colleagues find that incredible!

haveiahealthyheart · 23/09/2021 22:05

9th percentile isn’t very low, it’s borderline between ‘below average’ and ‘low’.
Significant learning difficulties are generally considered (where I work) to be where standard scores are 69 and below. Which is around 1st centile really.

I’m not that surprised she hasn’t had an ehcp if the scores alone are the only reason you’re requesting it, although of course she should be getting interventions and differentiated teaching to help give her a boost. Smile

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Sickoffamilydrama · 23/09/2021 21:54

It probably is irrelevant now but then I wasn't pushy enough with primary they often said she was fine and also discouraged me from applying for an EHCP which I know realise DD is exactly the type of child that should have one!

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Sickoffamilydrama · 23/09/2021 21:29

Assess not access 🤦‍♀️

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