Primary school what does a standardised score of 81 mean

The standardised scores alone don't provide proof someone needs an EHCP.

The above posters are right in sating that 81 is low normal rather than exceptionally low BUT you can get an EHCP with higher scores (my daughters vary from low 80s to 141 depending on what's being tested.) An ECHP is awarded when SEN needed affect learning to such an extent that the child can't be catered for with normal school SEN support. What was clear in my daughters case was that she had slipped over three or four years from exceeding in all areas to average, at best, plus struggling so hard with school refusal that she was completely out of school by the time they assessed.

Autism, SPD, Dyslexia and Dyscalculia certainly would be enough to get an assessment for an EHCP. A good EP will see through masking. Personally I'd make a parental application if school won't. It takes a long time, especially if you have to appeal, and children with those difficulties will sometimes find year 7 really difficult and the cracks will show - those are the things that you, the teachers and the LA EP need to pick up and decide if an EHCP is needed. The school may persuade you to wait but if, like us, you wait until your child can't attend school you face up to a year without a school.

I would ask for a meeting with the schools SENDCO. If you believe that your daughter might be in need of an EHCP in the future, I would be asking the SENDCO now whether the borough accepts diagnosis from private psychologists. Many don't and insist on their Ed Psych or preferred service. It will be frustrating for you to start a process and then get caught up on the need for this requirement especially when there is a waiting list and Ed psychs are in short supply.

I would be also enquire with the school whether they plan to do testing which gives them national benchmarks. Many schools are using GLS CAT4 to set the baseline data for new intake. CAT4 not only predicts what a child is likely to achieve at GCSE but also what they would have been likely to achieve had they taken key stage 2 SATs. This might give help you reflect on the accuracy of previous assessments.

So when they diagnosed dyslexia and dyscalclia what were her strength areas and top scores (I.e potential) my childrens scores range from below 1% to top 1%, but others don't vary so much, but clear weakness in phonological and word read. If scoring in the low average you need to prove potential, with the areas of strength and high potential not average, to show the gap between achievement with the support and what might be possible

Jessicabrassca DC don't have to be struggling academically to get an EHCP. DC can have one and be academically able.

What assessments have you had done? Our primary were uninterested so we paid for private EP and occupational therapy reports and we are getting a dyslexia assessment done soon.

I don't understand how they can say it's expected, as expected is a score of 100. A child scoring 80 will really struggle at secondary without support - you need a Y6 reading age to access material in all subjects. I think you're right to be questioning this OP.

A standardised score of 85 would be way below average at the school i work at. All our kids are achieving 110 or higher

In a standardized test 100 is average. Standard scores of 81 and 83 are both "low average". So on the cusp between emerging/ expected. As explained above, it's common for standard scores to fluctuate a little as they're an approximation of where she stands in relation to other children roughly her age...but these scores are within the same range, showing she's progressing at the same steady pace.

Sorry - just reread the 81 was from primary. Has the secondary done their own testing?

Because there are no KS2 SAT results for the last two years this is likely to be a standardised score from Cognitive Attainment Tests the school has done. They then enter these scores into something called FFT. You should be able to go back to the school and ask what these results are predicting she will attain at GCSE. It will give you a better understanding of where you daughter is.

Op it's such a special area ask on the sen boards here.

Often very sadly not only do the school spout out utter nonsense when it comes to sen but also they don't know the law and often even the council doesn't.

Ask on sen boards for better targeted help.

Oops cross posted again!! 🙈

I’m not familiar with the emerging /expected system I’m sorry. But, if she is having support but not progressing, then maybe she needs to be supported in a different way?

One thing I’ll say (and sorry if you do already know this) is that standardised scores are standardised by the age of the child at the time they take the test. So if a child’s standardised score stayed the same every single year, it wouldn’t show a lack of progress, it would show that they had made the progress in line with what would be expected for their age. A precisely average achiever making progress as expected would get a score of 100 every single year. A lower or higher than average achiever making consistent progress will also get similar scores year on year.

If you see the scores getting lower, it doesn’t necessarily mean there is no learning or progress in real terms, but it does suggest that the progress is slower than is (statistically) expected.
A little bit of variation in standard scores is normal as children hit plateaus in their learning some years, then later on something clicks and they make a leap. If you see a consistent or significant drop in standard scores it’s worth flagging up though because it could show that her rate of progress is slowing and she might need different support.

sorry - cross posted!