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Children with a statement

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Blandmum · 05/01/2007 15:59

Saw these stats today in the Times Ed and thought that they were interesting enough to post.

The percentages of children with a statement of SEN

58.7- in mainstream state schools
37.9- In special schools or pupil referal units
3.5 in mainstream private schools.

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Jimjams2 · 05/01/2007 19:22

I think more private schools would take children with statements if the funding that the statement comes with could be transferred to the school. So for example when ds1 was in mainstream he had full time 1:1, but the LEA would never allow an LEA employed LSA to work in a private school, so who would have paid the LSA's salary?

I know quite a large number of people running home programmes, and some of them have very successfuly flexi-schooled their children in private schools. In that case the "shadow" is funded as part of the programme, so they can go wherever is seen to be best. Some private schools have been very welcoming.

And how many of those wiith statements are excluded or not accessing school? (Current because I saw a friend today whose dd comes with a statemenrt specifiying 0.9 and the school have completely cocked up with her- she's very able, but very anxious.- Provision for HFA/AS locally is non existent.)

PeachyClair · 05/01/2007 19:17

Quote from my applicatioj pack (going through statementing atm) : at appeal (man, many statements goto appeal) you MAY NOT specify an private school. Even if the appeal is absed upon your child not attending the school specified, it will still not be considered if you put a private school as the alternative.

There ahs to be some system for LEa funding of places, as a local woman got her AS son into a specialist school with LEA funding, however it took several years and a court case for that to happen.

clnccl · 05/01/2007 19:13

Mmmmmmm, they seem to have left out the children that have a statement that aren't in school at the moment!

Blandmum · 05/01/2007 16:27

that is the break down of all children with a statement. I would think that verey few children go to special/ pru schools, so the % of kids with statments in them is out of line, IYSWIM.

We are finding that those children coming to us with a statement have needs in line with thise children who were given a place in special schools 5 years ago. Children coming in on SA+ have needs equal to, or greater than those who used to come in with a statement 5 years ago.

The delaying in getting fundinf and extra help is abysmal, and utterly detrimental to the welfare of the child

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coppertop · 05/01/2007 16:19

The whole 'you can only have a statement if the school can't meet your needs' system is useless IMHO. I think of children like my ds1 who hasn't yet needed a statement in his primary school because the set-up suits his autism IYSWIM. He stays in the same classroom all day and with the same teacher. Secondary school is a whole new world and I'm 99% sure he's going to find it difficult. But would he get a atatement in place for when he arrives? Probably not because the school hasn't had a chance to find out whether his needs can be met. Then add 6mths+ for a statement to be put in place and most of the first year has been wasted. It's cr@p.

LIZS · 05/01/2007 16:17

hana, think you made same mistake I did at first - 37.9 % of all children with statements attend special schools/referrals units.

beckybrastraps · 05/01/2007 16:11

MB - is that the distribution of children with statements?

How does it compare with distribution of all pupils?

hana · 05/01/2007 16:10

am slightly surprised at the stats for special schools - at our school ( it's a MLD/SLD secondary in London) and all students have a statement - it's a requirement of the school that they have one to be accepted as a pupil

LIZS · 05/01/2007 16:10

.. or have I misread it - that is the split of all those with statements by where they attend isn't it , not % of pupils attending those schools as I think I first read it.

LIZS · 05/01/2007 16:07

Probably because they don't have access to the same system of evaluation and funded support if successful , particualr bugbear. Looks v high for state schools since they seem so hard to come by, does it include all those who have any extra assistance.

Blandmum · 05/01/2007 16:07

I think that many will be selective and will probably 'keep out' kids with a statement.

I was surprised at the number of children still getting into special schools....since they are under threat in our LEA.

I know that we don't have that many children coming into us with a statement any more....scarce as hen's teeth. In general most of the kids coming to us, enter on school action plus, and we then have to go through the statementing process, as their needs are no-where near being met at SA+.

Because statmented kids have some rights don't they? [fume emoticon needed] and it is just so much cheaper to keep them on SA+

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coppertop · 05/01/2007 16:02

Wow! Was there any explanation of why it's so low for private schools? Is it because they have the facilities/funding to manage without or something else? Very interesting in any case.