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Why so much hate on MN?

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Oncetwicethreetimesmore · 21/09/2026 18:44

@MNHQ
Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 25/09/2026 15:22

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 15:04

I will never vote for Labour as long as they continue to punish the taxpayer.

Quick research tells me that 37% of PIP claimants get maximum amount or 194.60 per week, which is tax free. You probably don’t ever need an in-person assessment. You can potentially still receive these benefits if you leave the UK for EEA. AI can write the claim to ensure you score maximum points.

If you receive the enhanced rate of PIP then you can get motability payments which are 80 per week for car lease and no need to pay for any insurance or breakdown covered it’s all included. You also don’t need to drive you can nominate 2 people to drive on your behalf Then once you have pip you can get all the other benefits on top. Did you know it gets you a free cinema card for you and a companion?

This is a scandal and a total scam. it’s not a safety net, it’s a nanny state culture ripping off hard working tax payers.

It's sad that you resent the payment of benefits to people with disabilities, but you are entitled to your views.

The cost of a motability car is not made in addition to the higher rate of PIP, as you have suggested. The £80 per month is essentially the mobility element of the PIP, which is used to pay the lease of a motability vehicle - so people will not get both.

BIossomtoes · 25/09/2026 15:16

I will never vote for Labour as long as they continue to punish the taxpayer.

How has this government “punished” you via taxation? I ask because tax rates haven’t risen since July 2024 and I’m paying no more tax than I was then. Actually I lie because my taxable income has risen. Am I special and everyone else is being “punished”?

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 15:04

I will never vote for Labour as long as they continue to punish the taxpayer.

Quick research tells me that 37% of PIP claimants get maximum amount or 194.60 per week, which is tax free. You probably don’t ever need an in-person assessment. You can potentially still receive these benefits if you leave the UK for EEA. AI can write the claim to ensure you score maximum points.

If you receive the enhanced rate of PIP then you can get motability payments which are 80 per week for car lease and no need to pay for any insurance or breakdown covered it’s all included. You also don’t need to drive you can nominate 2 people to drive on your behalf Then once you have pip you can get all the other benefits on top. Did you know it gets you a free cinema card for you and a companion?

This is a scandal and a total scam. it’s not a safety net, it’s a nanny state culture ripping off hard working tax payers.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 25/09/2026 15:01

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 13:49

The left wing ideology lumped in one. Occasionally they will drift away but their causes are normally commonly shared, in the name of progression. They could be classed as hard left as the right are considered far right.

Are you accusing all left wing people of being antisemitic, and do you believe that antisemitism is never observed amongst those on the right?

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:32

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:27

You just lumped all left wing people into omnicause/antifa

They lump themselves as one, that's the point, and always with a self righteous sneer. I've said there are exceptions.

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:27

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:25

The irony of using Reddit as a good place! What daily naive threads about Israel? You wouldn't be lumping all people who don't agree with you into one would you? I see this loads on here, if you don't worship Labour, you're a bot/troll, far right, racist etc etc.

You just lumped all left wing people into omnicause/antifa

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:25

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:22

Ah ok, I thought you had said that the Tories needed to persuade you to come back from Reform.

I abandoned Conservative at the last GE.

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:25

smooththecat · 25/09/2026 14:19

You are right. It’s grim. MN is grim. I don’t know why I’m on here tbh, it fuels my depression. I think the days of the messageboard are kind of done. The culture of this one is not great and some of that is down to design choices. If you navigate active threads like I do it’s pure bile, Daily Mail comments section bile. At least with Reddit you choose what to follow and your main feed is mostly that. I’m also pretty sure the site is overrun with bad actors and that they are not on top of it at all here. See the daily faux naive threads about Israel.

The irony of using Reddit as a good place! What daily naive threads about Israel? You wouldn't be lumping all people who don't agree with you into one would you? I see this loads on here, if you don't worship Labour, you're a bot/troll, far right, racist etc etc.

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:22

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:17

No I am true blue, but not of the turquoise variety.

Ah ok, I thought you had said that the Tories needed to persuade you to come back from Reform.

smooththecat · 25/09/2026 14:19

You are right. It’s grim. MN is grim. I don’t know why I’m on here tbh, it fuels my depression. I think the days of the messageboard are kind of done. The culture of this one is not great and some of that is down to design choices. If you navigate active threads like I do it’s pure bile, Daily Mail comments section bile. At least with Reddit you choose what to follow and your main feed is mostly that. I’m also pretty sure the site is overrun with bad actors and that they are not on top of it at all here. See the daily faux naive threads about Israel.

LizzieW1969 · 25/09/2026 14:18

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 14:04

I must have imagined the times when we have disagreed on the Starmer/Burnham threads. And the political arguments I have with my left wing DH.

Indeed, we had some heated discussions during Starmer’s last days in office!

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:17

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:15

Not all Antifa will shout that

Just like not all far right will do a certain salute

I thought you were voting Reform?

No I am true blue, but not of the turquoise variety.

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:15

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:12

If Antifa don't chant free Palestine, I will vote Labour in the next GE. That's how confident I am.

Not all Antifa will shout that

Just like not all far right will do a certain salute

I thought you were voting Reform?

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:12

If Antifa don't chant free Palestine, I will vote Labour in the next GE. That's how confident I am.

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:10

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 14:04

I must have imagined the times when we have disagreed on the Starmer/Burnham threads. And the political arguments I have with my left wing DH.

I wasn't aware we are the Borg either.

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 14:09

Antifa is also one mindset/organisation?

All anti fascist think the same on every issue?

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 14:05

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 14:02

Why do you have a problem with that? You have no problem lumping the right into one box

Would you like to demonstrate where I have lumped the right into one box? There are plenty of decent right-wing people out there.

I said there are caveats to the omnicause and conundrums are often presented, particularly with trans rights issues, sometimes the stance on the ME conflict

So basically there is no left wing omnicause. If there was there would be no need for your "caveats".

The omnicause is as real as Antifa, which somebody argued doesn't exist. Guess JKR didn't get the memo.

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 14:04

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 13:52

That makes no sense, everyone with left wing views think in one particular way?

I must have imagined the times when we have disagreed on the Starmer/Burnham threads. And the political arguments I have with my left wing DH.

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 14:02

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 13:54

Why do you have a problem with that? You have no problem lumping the right into one box. I said there are caveats to the omnicause and conundrums are often presented, particularly with trans rights issues, sometimes the stance on the ME conflict.

Why do you have a problem with that? You have no problem lumping the right into one box

Would you like to demonstrate where I have lumped the right into one box? There are plenty of decent right-wing people out there.

I said there are caveats to the omnicause and conundrums are often presented, particularly with trans rights issues, sometimes the stance on the ME conflict

So basically there is no left wing omnicause. If there was there would be no need for your "caveats".

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 13:54

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 13:51

So all left wing people share the same views about everything? You obviously don't know many in real life.

Why do you have a problem with that? You have no problem lumping the right into one box. I said there are caveats to the omnicause and conundrums are often presented, particularly with trans rights issues, sometimes the stance on the ME conflict.

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 13:52

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 13:49

The left wing ideology lumped in one. Occasionally they will drift away but their causes are normally commonly shared, in the name of progression. They could be classed as hard left as the right are considered far right.

That makes no sense, everyone with left wing views think in one particular way?

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 13:51

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 13:49

The left wing ideology lumped in one. Occasionally they will drift away but their causes are normally commonly shared, in the name of progression. They could be classed as hard left as the right are considered far right.

So all left wing people share the same views about everything? You obviously don't know many in real life.

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 13:49

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 13:43

What do you mean with omnicause?

The left wing ideology lumped in one. Occasionally they will drift away but their causes are normally commonly shared, in the name of progression. They could be classed as hard left as the right are considered far right.

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 13:43

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 13:39

Posts from the omnicause.

What do you mean with omnicause?

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 13:39

runfromthecrushingtide · 25/09/2026 13:38

In the past week alone I've seen

In the past week alone I've seen:
Jewish people have an air of outraged entitlement
Jewish people are recreating the Holocaust
Israel makes me dislike Jewish people
Jewish people are doing themselves no favours
October 7th was resistance
Hamas are freedom fighters
There were no rapes on October 7th
Zionists are all terrorists who should be stranded on Epstein island
The Jews have short memories and lack empathy and compassion
People who don't criticise Israel enough are lying about being Jewish
Netenyahu is the leader of all Jewish people

Some of these posts have been deleted, some haven't.

I was going to post this on the thread about antisemitism on mumsnet but predictably it was derailed into an argument about Gaza and then deleted.

Posts from the omnicause.