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Why so much hate on MN?

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Oncetwicethreetimesmore · 21/09/2026 18:44

@MNHQ
Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

OP posts:
AutumnLoverButNotYet · 25/09/2026 17:53

Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 17:46

Why does she have to hide his savings? Has it suddenly become means tested but they’ve kept it a secret?

Yes, just one clue that they know absolutely nothing about it!!

AutumnLoverButNotYet · 25/09/2026 17:52

Ved · 25/09/2026 17:45

It does make me laugh how the benefit bashers and haters know so much about all their neighbours and acquaintances finances, (and extended family members,) and exactly what benefits they receive. And how pretty much most of them are 'faking it' and have nothing wrong with them. 😆

Pure unadulterated ableism, and vitriol, and hate spreading.

They know NOTHING about these people, and are just big billy bullshitters. Posting on here purely to bash benefit claimants....

No-one is telling anyone how much benefits, universal credit, or PIP they are getting, and they are definitely not telling them why they're getting it.

Benefit bashers are soooo tedious. 🙄

Well said!! couldn't agree more.

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 17:51

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 17:34

I don't think anyone said that there aren't fake PIP claims. There are, but not on the scale some suggest. It is odd though how the fakers are always boasters 🤔

Did the Tories reward the work shy?

Edited

It can be as odd as you think. It happens.

AutumnLoverButNotYet · 25/09/2026 17:49

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 16:15

Can I get ADHD from being run over?

I see the award rate is 43% for ADHD claims.

Edited

First of all, I'd like to make it clear I don't have ADHD (well not diagnosed anyway!). So I have no skin in the game as far as that's concerned.

I do now get Pip after I became disabled, it's a physical disability. not that it should matter, but it seems to to you so I just wanted to be clear..

The statistics for the claimant with ADHD are very skewed because you have one main 'category' (that's not quite the right word, but I can't think what else to call it. People who are successful getting PIP, will not just have ADHD, they will have several other issues limiting their ability to cope or function in the same way as someone that doesn't have any of those things.

PIP is awarded on impact of the disability, it is not awarded on a diagnosis.

I am totally sure that a small, very small percentage of people somehow cheat the system, but that is a tiny amount, and anyone that tells you it is easy to get has not been through the system.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 25/09/2026 17:46

pointythings · 25/09/2026 17:38

PIP is not means tested, so you're either getting confused with UC, which does have a savings limit, or you're lacking information in which case you should check before posting.

Good point.

Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 17:46

roxyro · 25/09/2026 16:11

Oh how dramatic. I know 4 people on PIP and not one is disabled in the true sense. All have anxiety or so they claim. One is son of acquaintance. Just passed driving test, bought 5 year old BMW, now private number plate and when having his latest review she had to hide his savings as he could only keep 6k in savings (think it's 6k). She told me last year he gets so much he doesn't know what to do with it. Admittedly doesn't smoke or drink, stays mostly at his gf's place. After most recent review they stopped his mobility, £200 per month and he's up in arms about it. Even been to MP about it. Makes my blood boil. I'm all for people getting help but in my experience it's grifters who game the system and the ones in genuine need get turned down.

Why does she have to hide his savings? Has it suddenly become means tested but they’ve kept it a secret?

Ved · 25/09/2026 17:45

It does make me laugh how the benefit bashers and haters know so much about all their neighbours and acquaintances finances, (and extended family members,) and exactly what benefits they receive. And how pretty much most of them are 'faking it' and have nothing wrong with them. 😆

Pure unadulterated ableism, and vitriol, and hate spreading.

They know NOTHING about these people, and are just big billy bullshitters. Posting on here purely to bash benefit claimants....

No-one is telling anyone how much benefits, universal credit, or PIP they are getting, and they are definitely not telling them why they're getting it.

Benefit bashers are soooo tedious. 🙄

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 25/09/2026 17:45

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 17:20

Yes make sure you do continue to post, like I intend to. There are false claims in benefits and Labour rewards the work shy. My sister lives next door to one who has had to be reported for harassment. Its pie in the sky to believe fake PIP claims aren't successful.

If you believe that Labour "rewards the workshy", could you tell me a) whether you are confident that there were never any fake claims for PIP when the Tories were in power, and b) why you think the proportion of new claims that are successful has been steadily dropping under Labour, and how this downward trend supports their alleged attempts to "reward the workshy"?

Piggywaspushed · 25/09/2026 17:44

So much of this is now tangential to the OP. It was literally casually dropped in bizarrely a propos of nothing. Probably best to ignore the lure.

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 17:43

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 17:37

Do I need to be on benefits to have an opinion? No I don't believe I do. People can talk about what they want, as has been confirmed.

Of course. But it is best for posters to know what they are actually talking about and not drift into making the same things up that others have made up a hundred times before. One can spot the fibs from space.

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 17:39

Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 17:33

Is that the benefit David Cameron claimed?

It is. The version for children, DLA. Dave would have been entitled to a free cinema pass, a blue badge and a motability car on behalf of his son.

I feel sure he would have preferred not to be entitled to those things.

pointythings · 25/09/2026 17:38

roxyro · 25/09/2026 16:11

Oh how dramatic. I know 4 people on PIP and not one is disabled in the true sense. All have anxiety or so they claim. One is son of acquaintance. Just passed driving test, bought 5 year old BMW, now private number plate and when having his latest review she had to hide his savings as he could only keep 6k in savings (think it's 6k). She told me last year he gets so much he doesn't know what to do with it. Admittedly doesn't smoke or drink, stays mostly at his gf's place. After most recent review they stopped his mobility, £200 per month and he's up in arms about it. Even been to MP about it. Makes my blood boil. I'm all for people getting help but in my experience it's grifters who game the system and the ones in genuine need get turned down.

PIP is not means tested, so you're either getting confused with UC, which does have a savings limit, or you're lacking information in which case you should check before posting.

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 17:37

Do I need to be on benefits to have an opinion? No I don't believe I do. People can talk about what they want, as has been confirmed.

AutumnLoverButNotYet · 25/09/2026 17:37

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 17:34

It's also pie in the sky to think that PIP gets handed out like sweets.

Or that Labour rewards the work shy.

Feel free to try and live on benefits.

Yeah, it's absolutely living the life of Riley on pip isn't it.

if anyone wants my Pip, they're welcome to it as long as they take my disability with it!!

I give anything to go back to my life before my disability and working long hours etc not claiming a penny, but there doesn't seem to be a turn back option and I seem to be stuck with this disability that is incredibly limiting in all aspects of life,

AutumnLoverButNotYet · 25/09/2026 17:34

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 17:00

The scandal is the utter shite that is talked by people who are clueless about PIP and simply want to spread ableism.

Definitely.

they just prove over and over again that they know absolutely fuck all about it

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 17:34

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 17:20

Yes make sure you do continue to post, like I intend to. There are false claims in benefits and Labour rewards the work shy. My sister lives next door to one who has had to be reported for harassment. Its pie in the sky to believe fake PIP claims aren't successful.

I don't think anyone said that there aren't fake PIP claims. There are, but not on the scale some suggest. It is odd though how the fakers are always boasters 🤔

Did the Tories reward the work shy?

DuncinToffee · 25/09/2026 17:34

It's also pie in the sky to think that PIP gets handed out like sweets.

Or that Labour rewards the work shy.

Feel free to try and live on benefits.

Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 17:33

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 15:04

I will never vote for Labour as long as they continue to punish the taxpayer.

Quick research tells me that 37% of PIP claimants get maximum amount or 194.60 per week, which is tax free. You probably don’t ever need an in-person assessment. You can potentially still receive these benefits if you leave the UK for EEA. AI can write the claim to ensure you score maximum points.

If you receive the enhanced rate of PIP then you can get motability payments which are 80 per week for car lease and no need to pay for any insurance or breakdown covered it’s all included. You also don’t need to drive you can nominate 2 people to drive on your behalf Then once you have pip you can get all the other benefits on top. Did you know it gets you a free cinema card for you and a companion?

This is a scandal and a total scam. it’s not a safety net, it’s a nanny state culture ripping off hard working tax payers.

Is that the benefit David Cameron claimed?

LuckyHazelFox · 25/09/2026 17:20

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 16:39

So, first you inferred I was without empathy, and now I am a hater?

I shall give you a miss, and will continue to post.

Yes make sure you do continue to post, like I intend to. There are false claims in benefits and Labour rewards the work shy. My sister lives next door to one who has had to be reported for harassment. Its pie in the sky to believe fake PIP claims aren't successful.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 25/09/2026 17:10

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 16:40

I think the childish behaviour is from those who infantilise the welfare system.

Could I politely suggest that you go and look up the word "infantilise" in a dictionary so that you understand how to use it appropriately next time?

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 17:09

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TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 17:08

Piggywaspushed · 25/09/2026 17:05

Interesting isn't it that any thread like this descends into 'groups of people we hate'. QED.

An omnicause of hate?

Piggywaspushed · 25/09/2026 17:05

Interesting isn't it that any thread like this descends into 'groups of people we hate'. QED.

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 17:03

roxyro · 25/09/2026 16:11

Oh how dramatic. I know 4 people on PIP and not one is disabled in the true sense. All have anxiety or so they claim. One is son of acquaintance. Just passed driving test, bought 5 year old BMW, now private number plate and when having his latest review she had to hide his savings as he could only keep 6k in savings (think it's 6k). She told me last year he gets so much he doesn't know what to do with it. Admittedly doesn't smoke or drink, stays mostly at his gf's place. After most recent review they stopped his mobility, £200 per month and he's up in arms about it. Even been to MP about it. Makes my blood boil. I'm all for people getting help but in my experience it's grifters who game the system and the ones in genuine need get turned down.

One is son of acquaintance. Just passed driving test, bought 5 year old BMW, now private number plate and when having his latest review she had to hide his savings as he could only keep 6k in savings (think it's 6k)

Yep. As I suspected you know feck all about PIP. There would be no need for your acquaintance (who is seems unusually keen to share her son's financial circumstances with you) to hide savings.

If I was a suspicious type I'd conclude you are telling porkies.

TemperanceWest · 25/09/2026 17:00

KateDibi · 25/09/2026 15:04

I will never vote for Labour as long as they continue to punish the taxpayer.

Quick research tells me that 37% of PIP claimants get maximum amount or 194.60 per week, which is tax free. You probably don’t ever need an in-person assessment. You can potentially still receive these benefits if you leave the UK for EEA. AI can write the claim to ensure you score maximum points.

If you receive the enhanced rate of PIP then you can get motability payments which are 80 per week for car lease and no need to pay for any insurance or breakdown covered it’s all included. You also don’t need to drive you can nominate 2 people to drive on your behalf Then once you have pip you can get all the other benefits on top. Did you know it gets you a free cinema card for you and a companion?

This is a scandal and a total scam. it’s not a safety net, it’s a nanny state culture ripping off hard working tax payers.

The scandal is the utter shite that is talked by people who are clueless about PIP and simply want to spread ableism.

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