Why so much hate on MN?

Burnham needs Labour MPs to accept the upcoming review. There’s been a few articles and ones on how ‘rich areas’ have more claims might help him.

Disability charities will oppose services over cash for some areas. But if its broadest shoulders gumpf then it’s an angle to take. We’ll see.

Incidentally, its customary to thank posters for bringing content to their attention, rather than criticising them for not posting the entire article etc.

Sometimes it is paywalled - so, you’re welcome.

The content of the article, of course - whether from the DT or Guardian.

Will be interesting to see if Labour now really start down to clamp down on PIP once they are aware that the ‘broadest shoulders’ DC are claiming.

We all know the drill.

What content?

It helps when you clarify what you are talking about.

Irrespective, the content remains the same…

So it is easier to get PIP when you are more affluent and can pay for private diagnosis?

The full articles make interesting reading, thanks for the links.

Thanks ES. It is so much better when posters link to full articles.

The Guardian ran it for those who prefer that.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/sep/22/england-affluent-areas-young-people-adhd-autism-pip-claims

It's from the Telegraph. Pp didn't post the whole article, here it is:

www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/4b42c0f81e8c29c9

Where did you find this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqzrz0z4plk1o

Scary.

I found this interesting.

Benefits claims for teenagers diagnosed with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and autism have more than tripled since the pandemic, with the sharpest rise seen in the richest areas.

More than one in 40 teenagers in the most affluent areas received Personal Independence Payments (Pip) last year for ADHD or autism, a study from the Nuffield Trust has found.

The findings have come to light before a government review into ADHD, autism and mental health services as concerns grow over their diagnosis rates.

Researchers said higher rates of new ADHD diagnoses in wealthier areas could partly reflect affluent families making greater use of private routes to diagnosis.

They warned that soaring demand for diagnosis and treatment risked “crowding out” the most severe cases and the “unnecessary and possibly harmful pathologisation of a sizeable proportion of the population”.

The Nuffield Trust report shows a quarter of 16 to 24-year-olds screened positive for ADHD symptoms in 2023-24, up from around 14 per cent in 2007. Researchers stressed that screening positive for symptoms does not amount to a clinical diagnosis.

Self-reported autism among 16 to 24-year-olds has also risen, from around 5 per cent in 2022 to 9 per cent in 2025

PIP is definitely not means tested! We went through the process with DD1 (17) and we weren’t asked any questions about our income or capital, we were just asked about her needs.

Nope. PIP is not means tested. Universal Credit is. But I love how confidently wrong you are! My DS gets PIP. Savings are not mentioned on the application.

He doesn't get UC because he does have savings. And works.

No mandatory timeframe at all, I was merely seeking clarification in light of your previous post in which you referenced an intention to ignore me.

It seems that you are responding to me but you haven't actually addressed my question, so I guess that clarifies the situation. Fair enough, it isn't compulsory to answer.

The mods answered three days ago, yet you kept posting. So not sure why you are suddenly so reticent. As you have hidden the thread you won't see my post, so it will remain a mystery! Or perhaps not.

Well it's run its course and mods have answered so pointless continuing, unless posters are just hanging around to argue.

Good idea!

Great, now I can hide this thread 👌

That answers the question, thanks.

Not really, no. I'd rather do the MN crossword, which I'm about to. You could always start a thread.

Any examples of these delicate benefits that were handed out?

I didn't realise it was mandatory to answer and within a certain time frame. The work shy appear under every government's watch. Labour's back benchers like welfare to be handled delicately - their seats are at stake after all. Not sure about why the need for your last question. Posting etiquette applies to all of us -including you.