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Why so much hate on MN?

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Oncetwicethreetimesmore · 21/09/2026 18:44

@MNHQ
Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

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LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:38

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You wouldn't be being mean, would you.

Sigh.

Whisperwaves · 21/09/2026 21:36

Wrong thread 🤣

placemats · 21/09/2026 21:36

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LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:36

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 21:35

They will certainly get to decide whether this thread stays up. Let's see.

Not very often a thread in site stuff gets taken down.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 21:35

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:32

MNHQ get to decide lots of things but you wouldn't think that was the case.

They will certainly get to decide whether this thread stays up. Let's see.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:35

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 21:35

What does that mean? It’s gibberish.

Oh well.

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 21:35

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:32

MNHQ get to decide lots of things but you wouldn't think that was the case.

What does that mean? It’s gibberish.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:32

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 21:29

No particular thread has been mentioned, it is just a general discussion imho, and a valid one. Anyway, mnhq gets to decide if this is a TAAT. Not you, not me.

MNHQ get to decide lots of things but you wouldn't think that was the case.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 21:31

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:29

So troll hunting and bot accusations have to be aimed at a particular somebody? OK. I can see why you are nervous around this particular topic. Well not you, but definitely the consortium.

Well given I am not troll or bot hunting, no am not nervous. Not sure what the consortium is.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:31

Whisperwaves · 21/09/2026 21:30

You wouldn't be trying to get this discussion shut down by any chance?

No, best it's left here in the open, keeping it all in one place, instead of spilling over on to every anti Labour or anti immigration thread.

Whisperwaves · 21/09/2026 21:30

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:18

Inferring that people are somebody else instead of every day women posting on a forum. Slagging people off about how much time they spend on the site and they've got no lives. So calling people sock puppets, trolls and generally being nasty - while saying there is a rise in mean posts.

You wouldn't be trying to get this discussion shut down by any chance?

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 21:29

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 21:23

Go to the thread you’re talking about rather that TAAT.

No particular thread has been mentioned, it is just a general discussion imho, and a valid one. Anyway, mnhq gets to decide if this is a TAAT. Not you, not me.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:29

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 21:25

It is a general discussion and not aimed at particular posters. Nobody has been named or singled out. So how are TG being broken?

So troll hunting and bot accusations have to be aimed at a particular somebody? OK. I can see why you are nervous around this particular topic. Well not you, but definitely the consortium.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 21:28

pointythings · 21/09/2026 21:25

This isn't a TAAT. This is a thread about the levels of hatred on MN as a whole. Which is a topic that deserves to be discussed. If it makes you uncomfortable, well... I am making points based on what I see on MN on a daily basis. I have no idea why you seem to take it personally.

Not sure about uncomfortable but I wasn’t surprised at your post. I think you have it wrong, but if you want to pick it up go back to that thread.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 21:25

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:18

Inferring that people are somebody else instead of every day women posting on a forum. Slagging people off about how much time they spend on the site and they've got no lives. So calling people sock puppets, trolls and generally being nasty - while saying there is a rise in mean posts.

It is a general discussion and not aimed at particular posters. Nobody has been named or singled out. So how are TG being broken?

pointythings · 21/09/2026 21:25

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 21:23

Go to the thread you’re talking about rather that TAAT.

This isn't a TAAT. This is a thread about the levels of hatred on MN as a whole. Which is a topic that deserves to be discussed. If it makes you uncomfortable, well... I am making points based on what I see on MN on a daily basis. I have no idea why you seem to take it personally.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 21:23

pointythings · 21/09/2026 21:22

What is incorrect about what I have said?

Go to the thread you’re talking about rather that TAAT.

pointythings · 21/09/2026 21:22

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 21:21

You can argue it on the thread if you’re so sure. Probably better than this vague and incorrect stuff.

What is incorrect about what I have said?

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 21:21

pointythings · 21/09/2026 21:19

You're correct - there are posters who are so strong in their convictions that they have become almost a religious faith. You can provide them with all the source data in the world, but they do not want to accept it. One clear example is the people who believe illegal immigration is rising - they need that belief to maintain their ideology, so they simply dismiss any evidence presented as fake.

You can argue it on the thread if you’re so sure. Probably better than this vague and incorrect stuff.

pointythings · 21/09/2026 21:19

BunfightBetty · 21/09/2026 21:14

That's a good way of weeding some of them out, they do tend to do that - just avoid awkward questions and keep banging their drum regardless.

Unfortunately, I suspect some genuine posters who are fanatical about their chosen opinions also do this too - if you ask them an awkward question that answering honestly and straightforwardly would lead them to show themselves to be wrong, they just get angry and deflect (usually to insulting). The real issue is probably that they don't want to face up to their contradictions themselves. But it does muddy the waters.

I find some of the bogus posters start, over a number of posts, to show that they don't quite get the nuance of the fine detail of British culture. So a sense of something being 'off' kind of builds over a number of posts.

You're correct - there are posters who are so strong in their convictions that they have become almost a religious faith. You can provide them with all the source data in the world, but they do not want to accept it. One clear example is the people who believe illegal immigration is rising - they need that belief to maintain their ideology, so they simply dismiss any evidence presented as fake.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:18

placemats · 21/09/2026 21:13

Hilarious?

Yes, or do you prefer ironic?

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 21:18

BugJuice · 21/09/2026 21:12

Which talk guidelines is it breaking?

Inferring that people are somebody else instead of every day women posting on a forum. Slagging people off about how much time they spend on the site and they've got no lives. So calling people sock puppets, trolls and generally being nasty - while saying there is a rise in mean posts.

pointythings · 21/09/2026 21:17

NormasArse · 21/09/2026 21:13

‘Woke Left’.

Honestly, what, in your opinion, does woke mean?

The moment someone uses 'woke left', you know they have nothing of substance to say.

To be fair 'far right' is also overused - far better to dissect what is being posted and counter it with evidence.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 21:15

pointythings · 21/09/2026 21:06

I tend to make a mental note of those who ignore it when data sources or evidence is posted and then double down on their message. That tells me they are not posting in good faith. And there are sadly a lot like that.

I bet. Even if you’re incorrect.

BunfightBetty · 21/09/2026 21:14

pointythings · 21/09/2026 21:06

I tend to make a mental note of those who ignore it when data sources or evidence is posted and then double down on their message. That tells me they are not posting in good faith. And there are sadly a lot like that.

That's a good way of weeding some of them out, they do tend to do that - just avoid awkward questions and keep banging their drum regardless.

Unfortunately, I suspect some genuine posters who are fanatical about their chosen opinions also do this too - if you ask them an awkward question that answering honestly and straightforwardly would lead them to show themselves to be wrong, they just get angry and deflect (usually to insulting). The real issue is probably that they don't want to face up to their contradictions themselves. But it does muddy the waters.

I find some of the bogus posters start, over a number of posts, to show that they don't quite get the nuance of the fine detail of British culture. So a sense of something being 'off' kind of builds over a number of posts.

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