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Why so much hate on MN?

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Oncetwicethreetimesmore · 21/09/2026 18:44

@MNHQ
Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

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DebbieSavage · 22/09/2026 08:50

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 08:43

Morning Debs. Awful isn't it. I'd say having an opinion on a forum is a hanging offence, or is that a far right metaphor to use?

An opinion on a forum like mumsnet is talking about whether a work colleague is getting too close to your husband or not. Saying there are too many 'forreners' in the country is not an opinion, it is hate speech. And if this government actually believed in what it espoused they would be drafting up legislation as we speak to give police the powers to prosecute people in the same manner that they would if they decided to go on some hate rampage against gay people.

SecretDressAgent · 22/09/2026 08:50

It seems that most of the 'political' posters assume that "Brexit was bad" which can be debated but they go further in asserting that everyone who voted for Brexit is a twat or mentally deficient and they keep on saying these things and worse to be deliberately insulting as if that helps to strengthen their argument.
You have opinions so do we.

BIossomtoes · 22/09/2026 08:45

myjamisbetterthanyours · 22/09/2026 08:41

Free your heart from this hate.

It wants to fly free!

🐥🐥🐥

There’s no hate in my heart but thank you for the twee “inspirational” platitude.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 08:43

DebbieSavage · 22/09/2026 08:37

Anti-immigration rhetoric should not be tolerated anywhere, least of all a public forum for anyone to view. It's not an 'opinion' its hate pure and simple and the government needs to clamp down on it, if nobody else will.

Morning Debs. Awful isn't it. I'd say having an opinion on a forum is a hanging offence, or is that a far right metaphor to use?

myjamisbetterthanyours · 22/09/2026 08:41

BIossomtoes · 22/09/2026 08:36

I’d say it was factual.

Free your heart from this hate.

It wants to fly free!

🐥🐥🐥

DebbieSavage · 22/09/2026 08:37

Anti-immigration rhetoric should not be tolerated anywhere, least of all a public forum for anyone to view. It's not an 'opinion' its hate pure and simple and the government needs to clamp down on it, if nobody else will.

BIossomtoes · 22/09/2026 08:36

myjamisbetterthanyours · 22/09/2026 08:35

Isn’t it just?

There are some threads where the rest of MN is compared to a cesspit.

Isn’t that hate? Horrible.

I’d say it was factual.

myjamisbetterthanyours · 22/09/2026 08:35

BIossomtoes · 21/09/2026 21:10

Isn’t it just. Differing views are one thing, the level of hatred on some threads these days is something else. I’ve been here a decade and it’s completely different now.

Isn’t it just?

There are some threads where the rest of MN is compared to a cesspit.

Isn’t that hate? Horrible.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 08:29

sherbetlemonade · 21/09/2026 23:22

I agree about the certain type of person who thinks like that and believes they are unquestioningly correct, but I suspect that these days, there are far more of them on the right than the left.

By the way, it is possible to be left-leaning and not be woke. Still, I'd rather be called left wing and woke than be right wing and racist.😁

I'm glad I'm neither - certainly not a left leaning hypocrite who calls everyone with a different political opinion, a racist.

Nanechange3000 · 22/09/2026 02:36

gamerchick · 21/09/2026 22:57

Yeah get rid of name changing. I'd be well up for that.

Having been on the reseaving end of true nastiness to the point of thinking of doing something stupid I disagree.

sherbetlemonade · 21/09/2026 23:22

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 21/09/2026 22:56

@NormasArse , there was an interesting article in today’s Telegraph on that very subject if you can access it, it’s a good read. I hadn’t realised that the term was initially utilised by the left to describe themselves.
I once saw a post here from someone asking what is ‘our’ position on a particular issue. I find that incredibly sad the poor soul was desperate to know the ‘right’ way to think. We should all be able to listen to as many different opinions and perspectives as we can and then make up our own minds what we think. I tend to think there is a certain type of person (not necessarily on the left of politics but often) who just adopts whatever the current group think is without much actual thought. These people very much consider themselves to be morally superior and that their views are unquestionably correct. There are a few videos I’ve seen of American college students being interviewed after having protested and chanted ‘from the river to the sea etc. When asked which river and sea they are talking about they are clueless. That sort of thing. Woke.

I agree about the certain type of person who thinks like that and believes they are unquestioningly correct, but I suspect that these days, there are far more of them on the right than the left.

By the way, it is possible to be left-leaning and not be woke. Still, I'd rather be called left wing and woke than be right wing and racist.😁

FlirtsWithRhinos · 21/09/2026 23:03

I've just realised.

"Hate" is a word that is used in online discourse to avoid having to recognise anger.

Because if you acknowledge someone is angry, you acknowledge there's a reason they feel as they do. You may disagree with that reason vehemently, but you recognise there is a reason and you have to know what it is before you can dismiss it.

Whereas "hate" - well that's just irrational, just blind emotion. You can dismiss "hatred" without ever asking a single question.

Just thought that was interesting.

I don't think blocking posters is a good idea. Echo chambers don't help anyone's understanding. Whole boards fine, whole threads maybe, but not specific perspectives. Very slippery slope that.

EasternStandard · 21/09/2026 23:03

Dadalus · 21/09/2026 22:54

Around a quarter of voters currently plan to vote Reform or Restore, so doesn't it make more sense to assume that most right wing posts are real people (capable of being debated) rather than bots?

True. It comes up a lot but the site is better with the spectrum of voters, as much as some won’t like it.

myjamisbetterthanyours · 21/09/2026 23:02

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 22:56

I can't remember if I have engaged with you before, tbf.

Good.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 23:01

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 22:59

It wasn't really a pile-on. Just lots of people disagreed with the OP.

Coincidental that an influx of posters arrived at the same time? I've seen it before and have been on the receiving end. I can handle myself but others might not be able to.

Madamefroufrou · 21/09/2026 23:01

sherbetlemonade · 21/09/2026 19:04

@Oncetwicethreetimesmore Are these threads usually in AIBU? Because I've got that whole board hidden, along with FWR, Royals and a few others as well. Makes life much more peaceful.

What the eye don't see, the heart don't grieve over.

how do we hide whole sections ?

I was brutalised on AIBU a few years ago when I had intended to post
on Chat.
Some posters were spoiling for a fight, some wicked, some unhinged.

then as an antidote, the kindly poster who came in at the end like the
Lilac Fairy,

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 22:59

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 22:50

There's always pile ons. It happened today on a thread we were both on.

It wasn't really a pile-on. Just lots of people disagreed with the OP.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 22:58

gamerchick · 21/09/2026 22:57

Yeah get rid of name changing. I'd be well up for that.

So what then happens to the people who name change for not wanting to be outed?

gamerchick · 21/09/2026 22:57

Whisperwaves · 21/09/2026 20:51

A block poster option would help.

Yeah get rid of name changing. I'd be well up for that.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 22:57

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Weren't you deleted for saying the same thing earlier?

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 21/09/2026 22:56

NormasArse · 21/09/2026 21:13

‘Woke Left’.

Honestly, what, in your opinion, does woke mean?

@NormasArse , there was an interesting article in today’s Telegraph on that very subject if you can access it, it’s a good read. I hadn’t realised that the term was initially utilised by the left to describe themselves.
I once saw a post here from someone asking what is ‘our’ position on a particular issue. I find that incredibly sad the poor soul was desperate to know the ‘right’ way to think. We should all be able to listen to as many different opinions and perspectives as we can and then make up our own minds what we think. I tend to think there is a certain type of person (not necessarily on the left of politics but often) who just adopts whatever the current group think is without much actual thought. These people very much consider themselves to be morally superior and that their views are unquestionably correct. There are a few videos I’ve seen of American college students being interviewed after having protested and chanted ‘from the river to the sea etc. When asked which river and sea they are talking about they are clueless. That sort of thing. Woke.

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 22:56

myjamisbetterthanyours · 21/09/2026 22:45

Recognise anyone who fits the description?

I can't remember if I have engaged with you before, tbf.

Dadalus · 21/09/2026 22:54

Around a quarter of voters currently plan to vote Reform or Restore, so doesn't it make more sense to assume that most right wing posts are real people (capable of being debated) rather than bots?

soddingspiderseason · 21/09/2026 22:53

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LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 22:50

TemperanceWest · 21/09/2026 22:39

Well report those threads and posts as orhestrating pile-ons probably wouldn't go down too well with mnhq.

They seem to be OK with this thread though, so that is good.

To pp - I think mentioning that bots and trolls exist on SM is fine, because they do. Even here on MN. In what sort of numbers is the debatable part

There's always pile ons. It happened today on a thread we were both on.