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Why so much hate on MN?

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Oncetwicethreetimesmore · 21/09/2026 18:44

@MNHQ
Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

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LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 09:57

mywalden · 22/09/2026 09:56

What are "apparent Jews"

Yes, I'm still waiting on who they are murdering as well.

mywalden · 22/09/2026 09:56

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 22/09/2026 09:20

Agree with the first few posts - loads of bots/bad actors from other countries post about politics, in particular, which renders the whole board a 50/50 split of insane posts with wild opinions no one ever hears in real life and people who are annoyed about some minor inconvenience to a quieter component who actually want to talk about the nuances rather than spout GB news. I also find this on ME board - a lot of apparent Jews/Israel supporters acting very badly and calling names to anyone who even suggests they might have murdered anyone at all! I can't help but think the site is being used to stir hatred with these extreme threads generated continuously.

What are "apparent Jews"

gamerchick · 22/09/2026 09:53

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 09:28

Yes it is a shame that being able to name change is being abused and used for means other than to seek help and support. It's ruining it for the genuine cases. I don't know how the site gets round that.

I just don't think it could physically happen. If you blocked an account then if they name changed and holes appear when people are quoted. They'll be identified with little detective work. If you just blocked a username, then there's nothing stopping that person you've blocked from name changing.

I doubt it's a change in a little bit of code while everything runs as normal anyway.

EasternStandard · 22/09/2026 09:52

Duckyfondant · 22/09/2026 09:51

I think mumsnet is quite representative of opinions I come across in real life. It's good to let everyone speak. Silencing others just pushes opinions underground, it certainly won't change hearts and minds.

Yes this. Usually mnhq are good on reinforcing this in each of these threads.

Duckyfondant · 22/09/2026 09:51

I think mumsnet is quite representative of opinions I come across in real life. It's good to let everyone speak. Silencing others just pushes opinions underground, it certainly won't change hearts and minds.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 09:28

gamerchick · 22/09/2026 09:22

You tell me? Block and name changing clash with each other..it's one or the other

Yes it is a shame that being able to name change is being abused and used for means other than to seek help and support. It's ruining it for the genuine cases. I don't know how the site gets round that.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 22/09/2026 09:28

DebbieSavage · 22/09/2026 09:18

I think you have me mistaken. I don't believe in borders, my question was towards the bigot in hiding who is trying to shield her anti-immigrant opinions behind a veneer of 'reasonableness'.

Well, I'm confused. There are many people on MN who are guilty of bigotry and anti-immigrant rhetoric, but @pointythings certainly isn't one of them.

gamerchick · 22/09/2026 09:26

Nanechange3000 · 22/09/2026 02:36

Having been on the reseaving end of true nastiness to the point of thinking of doing something stupid I disagree.

But that's what block means. You can't have name changing with a block function. How would it work?

pointythings · 22/09/2026 09:23

DebbieSavage · 22/09/2026 08:54

'I don't have a problem with wanting to manage immigration.'

Why do you not? By saying that you are implying that there is a limit for too many people who don't look like you being in the country. Why would that be a problem exactly? Please do share your reasoning, I am curious to know whether your excuse will be economic or cultural.

It's neither. We need immigration. But we do need to know who's here so we can

  • plan services and infrastructure
  • prevent economic exploitation
  • provide support with language learning etc so people can fulfil their potential

So my position is one of pragmatism, not ideology.

gamerchick · 22/09/2026 09:22

LuckyHazelFox · 21/09/2026 22:58

So what then happens to the people who name change for not wanting to be outed?

You tell me? Block and name changing clash with each other..it's one or the other

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 09:21

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 22/09/2026 09:20

Agree with the first few posts - loads of bots/bad actors from other countries post about politics, in particular, which renders the whole board a 50/50 split of insane posts with wild opinions no one ever hears in real life and people who are annoyed about some minor inconvenience to a quieter component who actually want to talk about the nuances rather than spout GB news. I also find this on ME board - a lot of apparent Jews/Israel supporters acting very badly and calling names to anyone who even suggests they might have murdered anyone at all! I can't help but think the site is being used to stir hatred with these extreme threads generated continuously.

Who have Jews murdered?

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 22/09/2026 09:20

Agree with the first few posts - loads of bots/bad actors from other countries post about politics, in particular, which renders the whole board a 50/50 split of insane posts with wild opinions no one ever hears in real life and people who are annoyed about some minor inconvenience to a quieter component who actually want to talk about the nuances rather than spout GB news. I also find this on ME board - a lot of apparent Jews/Israel supporters acting very badly and calling names to anyone who even suggests they might have murdered anyone at all! I can't help but think the site is being used to stir hatred with these extreme threads generated continuously.

DebbieSavage · 22/09/2026 09:18

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 22/09/2026 09:13

So you it isn't just about numbers, it's about the number of people "who don't look like you"?

I think you have me mistaken. I don't believe in borders, my question was towards the bigot in hiding who is trying to shield her anti-immigrant opinions behind a veneer of 'reasonableness'.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 09:17

pointythings · 22/09/2026 09:12

Amazingly enough, some people can hold more than one thought in their heads at the same time. It is not wrong to acknowledge the reality of who the dead person was and at the same time be appalled at their murder. Life isn't simple and black/white.

I agree, it's amazing that some people can recognise true asylum seekers and people wanting to migrate, as opposed to those coming through the illegal route and destroying their ID. Appreciating two things at the same time, is such an understated approach.

BIossomtoes · 22/09/2026 09:16

pointythings · 22/09/2026 09:12

Amazingly enough, some people can hold more than one thought in their heads at the same time. It is not wrong to acknowledge the reality of who the dead person was and at the same time be appalled at their murder. Life isn't simple and black/white.

Exactly. It’s not necessary to canonise someone in order to abhor their murder.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 22/09/2026 09:13

DebbieSavage · 22/09/2026 08:54

'I don't have a problem with wanting to manage immigration.'

Why do you not? By saying that you are implying that there is a limit for too many people who don't look like you being in the country. Why would that be a problem exactly? Please do share your reasoning, I am curious to know whether your excuse will be economic or cultural.

So you it isn't just about numbers, it's about the number of people "who don't look like you"?

pointythings · 22/09/2026 09:12

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 09:07

Well I suppose when you prioritise critiquing the behaviour of murdered people, over the behaviour of their murderers, it tends to leave a bad taste.

Amazingly enough, some people can hold more than one thought in their heads at the same time. It is not wrong to acknowledge the reality of who the dead person was and at the same time be appalled at their murder. Life isn't simple and black/white.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 09:07

pointythings · 22/09/2026 09:05

I agree that there were many unpleasant comments about Charlie Kirk and Anne Widdecombe. However, there were also attacks on anyone posting legitimate criticism of their politics and behaviour. It was as if performative mourning was the only acceptable response.

Well I suppose when you prioritise critiquing the behaviour of murdered people, over the behaviour of their murderers, it tends to leave a bad taste.

pointythings · 22/09/2026 09:05

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 08:55

The comments about Charlie Kirk and Ann Widdecombe were awful as well. It's not just immigration that drives unsavoury opinions. Let's not keep pretending It's only one side that's driven by hate.

I agree that there were many unpleasant comments about Charlie Kirk and Anne Widdecombe. However, there were also attacks on anyone posting legitimate criticism of their politics and behaviour. It was as if performative mourning was the only acceptable response.

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 09:01

BIossomtoes · 22/09/2026 09:00

Yes, they were. Let’s not keep pretending that everyone with similar political views is equally hateful. There are right leaning posters here who manage to articulate their views without spite and venom, just as there are those at the other end of the spectrum who do the same.

Your point is?

BIossomtoes · 22/09/2026 09:00

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 08:55

The comments about Charlie Kirk and Ann Widdecombe were awful as well. It's not just immigration that drives unsavoury opinions. Let's not keep pretending It's only one side that's driven by hate.

Yes, they were. Let’s not keep pretending that everyone with similar political views is equally hateful. There are right leaning posters here who manage to articulate their views without spite and venom, just as there are those at the other end of the spectrum who do the same.

myjamisbetterthanyours · 22/09/2026 08:55

BIossomtoes · 22/09/2026 08:45

There’s no hate in my heart but thank you for the twee “inspirational” platitude.

Bless!

LuckyHazelFox · 22/09/2026 08:55

pointythings · 22/09/2026 08:51

I don't have a problem with wanting to manage immigration. I just have a problem with the rhetoric used by so many, implying all asylum seekers are criminals, rapists and fake. People who knowingly whip that up are dreadful. The comments around the women who drowned earlier this year were horrific. Ditto the comments about the Huntingdon train attack and Southport. People use any adverse event to froth about evil immigrants. Then when they're shown to be wrong, they refuse to acknowledge that or veer into whataboutery.

The comments about Charlie Kirk and Ann Widdecombe were awful as well. It's not just immigration that drives unsavoury opinions. Let's not keep pretending It's only one side that's driven by hate.

DebbieSavage · 22/09/2026 08:54

pointythings · 22/09/2026 08:51

I don't have a problem with wanting to manage immigration. I just have a problem with the rhetoric used by so many, implying all asylum seekers are criminals, rapists and fake. People who knowingly whip that up are dreadful. The comments around the women who drowned earlier this year were horrific. Ditto the comments about the Huntingdon train attack and Southport. People use any adverse event to froth about evil immigrants. Then when they're shown to be wrong, they refuse to acknowledge that or veer into whataboutery.

'I don't have a problem with wanting to manage immigration.'

Why do you not? By saying that you are implying that there is a limit for too many people who don't look like you being in the country. Why would that be a problem exactly? Please do share your reasoning, I am curious to know whether your excuse will be economic or cultural.

pointythings · 22/09/2026 08:51

DebbieSavage · 22/09/2026 08:37

Anti-immigration rhetoric should not be tolerated anywhere, least of all a public forum for anyone to view. It's not an 'opinion' its hate pure and simple and the government needs to clamp down on it, if nobody else will.

I don't have a problem with wanting to manage immigration. I just have a problem with the rhetoric used by so many, implying all asylum seekers are criminals, rapists and fake. People who knowingly whip that up are dreadful. The comments around the women who drowned earlier this year were horrific. Ditto the comments about the Huntingdon train attack and Southport. People use any adverse event to froth about evil immigrants. Then when they're shown to be wrong, they refuse to acknowledge that or veer into whataboutery.