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Why so much hate on MN?

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Oncetwicethreetimesmore · 21/09/2026 18:44

@MNHQ
Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

OP posts:
myjamisbetterthanyours · Yesterday 15:53

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 15:32

We’re back to Victorian values now with deserving and undeserving poor. God help us.

Yes, it’s the same.

Because the Victorians were known for their UC, CB and PIP.

KateDibi · Yesterday 15:52

Viviennemary · Yesterday 15:40

I hardly think so. The benefits system is shocking in this country. People who need it struggling and others who play the system coining it in.

Hard agree.

Viviennemary · Yesterday 15:40

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 15:32

We’re back to Victorian values now with deserving and undeserving poor. God help us.

I hardly think so. The benefits system is shocking in this country. People who need it struggling and others who play the system coining it in.

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 15:36

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 15:32

We’re back to Victorian values now with deserving and undeserving poor. God help us.

Exactly. It's frightening.

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 15:32

We’re back to Victorian values now with deserving and undeserving poor. God help us.

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 15:29

roxyro · Yesterday 14:30

Regardless, there’s no reason he should be getting the amount of money he does. When his mother, without an ounce of awareness, says “he gets so much money he doesn’t know what to do with it” it’s wrong. The money is to help people and when others who are truly deserving don’t get it, there is something wrong with the system.

Who are the truly deserving?

KateDibi · Yesterday 15:06

dreamiesformolly · Yesterday 14:45

Er, no. Where would society end up if people just stuck their heads in the sand whenever they saw bigotry and injustice being tolerated/perpetuated?

You might want to do a bit of reading about the history of Germany in the 1930s and how Hitler came to power, to give just one example.

Well, your first paragraph is a false premise, so there is no need to address your patronising second paragraph.

Stop trying to shut down people who have a different view from yours.

dreamiesformolly · Yesterday 14:45

KateDibi · Yesterday 11:07

The OP started the thread with.

Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

I am addressing the highlighted.

Surely, the answer to your post is to ignore the poster, hide the thread, scroll on by, or start your own thread?

Er, no. Where would society end up if people just stuck their heads in the sand whenever they saw bigotry and injustice being tolerated/perpetuated?

You might want to do a bit of reading about the history of Germany in the 1930s and how Hitler came to power, to give just one example.

dreamiesformolly · Yesterday 14:42

roxyro · Yesterday 14:25

Why would I apply for Pip? I don’t need it, don’t deserve it and even if I did I wouldn’t apply as I am financially secure. Lucky me - there you go, saved you the trouble and, yes, in the past I have claimed benefits but, thankfully managed to get on my feet.

I was addressing your airy assertions that anyone can get it, as I think you know full well. And if you've been on benefits yourself, I'd have thought you'd have a better understanding of the factors that can place a person in need.

roxyro · Yesterday 14:30

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 25/09/2026 19:03

Passed his test with flying colours so can't be that anxious

Well there we go. Apparently people can't possibly suffer from one of the multitude of Anxiety disorders if they can pass a driving test.

Regardless, there’s no reason he should be getting the amount of money he does. When his mother, without an ounce of awareness, says “he gets so much money he doesn’t know what to do with it” it’s wrong. The money is to help people and when others who are truly deserving don’t get it, there is something wrong with the system.

roxyro · Yesterday 14:25

dreamiesformolly · 25/09/2026 18:47

I like facts just fine. You're the one who appears to be scared of them. 'Not that hard to get', well as I was saying to a pp, why don't you apply for it yourself then, seeing as you seem so jealous of people who get it? The way you're talking, it'd be a doddle.

Why would I apply for Pip? I don’t need it, don’t deserve it and even if I did I wouldn’t apply as I am financially secure. Lucky me - there you go, saved you the trouble and, yes, in the past I have claimed benefits but, thankfully managed to get on my feet.

roxyro · Yesterday 14:17

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LizzieW1969 · Yesterday 12:13

We went private in order to get DD1 and epilepsy diagnosis, it was just too long a wait on the NHS! Now she’s on medication, we’re back with the NHS.

KateDibi · Yesterday 12:12

Piggywaspushed · Yesterday 11:08

Which indeed you could have done.

Well, if everyone followed your logic, there would be no more MN, would there?

And where would some of us be then?

myjamisbetterthanyours · Yesterday 11:51

Piggywaspushed · Yesterday 11:25

The conversation was about making one's own appointments, not Choose and Book.

If you are seeing a consultant in a private clinic he or she usually also works for the NHS. Most prioritise their more lucrative work . They can't be in two places at once.

Edited

Most consultants I see work privately in the evening.

I’m not taking away time for their NHS work and I pay for it.

When NHS hospitals outsource surgery then they do during working hours and they pay for it.

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 11:38

Piggywaspushed · Yesterday 11:25

The conversation was about making one's own appointments, not Choose and Book.

If you are seeing a consultant in a private clinic he or she usually also works for the NHS. Most prioritise their more lucrative work . They can't be in two places at once.

Edited

Exactly. My cataract surgery was done at the end of my surgeon’s shift in the same theatre.as the NHS patients he’d operated in all day. It didn’t take any pressure off the NHS. I guess it benefited from the fee he paid them for theatre use.

Piggywaspushed · Yesterday 11:25

The conversation was about making one's own appointments, not Choose and Book.

If you are seeing a consultant in a private clinic he or she usually also works for the NHS. Most prioritise their more lucrative work . They can't be in two places at once.

myjamisbetterthanyours · Yesterday 11:21

Piggywaspushed · Yesterday 11:07

Using private healthcare doesn't take pressure off the NHS. That is a myth.

Why are NHS hospitals outsourcing some services to the private sector then?
If it does not take some pressure off then it’s a complete waste of money.

Piggywaspushed · Yesterday 11:08

KateDibi · Yesterday 11:07

The OP started the thread with.

Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

I am addressing the highlighted.

Surely, the answer to your post is to ignore the poster, hide the thread, scroll on by, or start your own thread?

Which indeed you could have done.

Piggywaspushed · Yesterday 11:07

Using private healthcare doesn't take pressure off the NHS. That is a myth.

KateDibi · Yesterday 11:07

Piggywaspushed · Yesterday 11:04

But, at the risk of sounding childish, you started it. Posters were discussing generally how MN is moderated / free speech/ arguing and you came along and plopped in something about benefit claimants as if the OP was asking 'what groups do you hate and why?' as if you thought you should be able to justify yourself.

I didn't get it at the time and still don't but I guess people will keep on engaging with you.

The OP started the thread with.

Why so much hate on MN?
Posters hiding behind complaints about the government, presenting themselves as reasonable actors, to push hate about asylum seekers, people with disabilities, benefit claimants..Mostly the same names all day everyday.
I am told to report - MN just not interested.
I am told to hide the thread..
Why isn't moderation better?
I know this will always exist and exists on other platforms but MN makes no effort to even try to anything about it.
You can't really sell MN as a caring, supportive site with all this stuff offered on a daily basis in active.

I am addressing the highlighted.

Surely, the answer to your post is to ignore the poster, hide the thread, scroll on by, or start your own thread?

Piggywaspushed · Yesterday 11:04

KateDibi · Yesterday 10:47

The thread is about purported ‘hate’ on MN, which includes alleged ‘benefit bashing’.

Personally keen to debunk that with bona fide data/media.

Edit: Other types of ‘hate’ are of course, available.

Edited

But, at the risk of sounding childish, you started it. Posters were discussing generally how MN is moderated / free speech/ arguing and you came along and plopped in something about benefit claimants as if the OP was asking 'what groups do you hate and why?' as if you thought you should be able to justify yourself.

I didn't get it at the time and still don't but I guess people will keep on engaging with you.

KateDibi · Yesterday 11:03

Not bothered by the small boats, tbh.

KateDibi · Yesterday 11:03

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 11:02

I am sure you have high hopes for the Timms review. Will its publication affect gilt yields? I understand you are an expert in that area.

Edited

What?

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 11:02

KateDibi · Yesterday 10:57

Absolutely, and perfectly understandable.

Hence the back and forth posts.

This is clearly a dynamic topic, given the forthcoming final Timms review.

I am sure you have high hopes for the Timms review. Will its publication affect gilt yields? I understand you are an expert in that area.

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