Could Mumsnet clarify the purpose of the sex and gender forum?

Because she got her answer. You had to read through loads of defensive replies to get there right enough. It was like a swarm of locusts.

You sound an awful lot like you're directly comparing the view that men can't turn into women and that women should have rights to assembly without men, with the view that some colours of skin make people inferior.

And one I've seen used by trans people and TRAs far more than by Gender Critical Feminists.

To be fair, I think they use it ironically when paraphrasing what [they believe] Gender Critical Feminists think. But still, other than that post I've never seen Gender Critical Feminists actually using it.

@Shedmistress it did jar, enough that I considered saying something, but as I said I've seen TRAs use it and the thread moved past without comment so I decided it must be ok and I was over-sensitive.

@Lexibletheflexible why don't you ask MNHQ to start a 'Gender Affirming Discussions' board? See how popular it is.

Do you always see people who disagree with you as ‘trying to dominate’? You could have emailed HQ to ask the question. You could have dealt with it on any one of the threads on the Sex and Gender board. But instead you post on a public board - presumably in the hope of finding like minded people.

People disagreeing with you within the rules on a public forum is perfectly reasonable. Just hide the sex and gender board if you don’t like it.

FWR boards take no prisoners and it may be inconvenient that some women have a different view to you, OP, and that they don’t follow the social conditioning of being nice for the sake of it. They arent motivated by hate, but the desire to protect others. I think they are awesome, lurking on that board opened my eyes to a lot of things.

COVID denier complaining that the communicable disease forum contains people who claim to have had COVID

Flat earther complaining that the geography forum is full of people who believe the Earth is round

Moon landing hoaxer complaining that the Space Exploration forum is full of people talking about rockets as if they are real

Ah, also just seen.
You can throw that in the face of the (fictional) posters who told you you weren't allowed to post, OP! Congratulations!

Oh wait, all the information was right there from before you began this ridiculous charade.

Hopefully the OP is satisfied now that BeckyMN posted pretty much exactly what Lougle quoted from Justine years ago and what loads of us have been saying.

But I doubt it.

I see the OP has not returned after @BeckyAMumsnet posted her response.

Its very childish to claim you arent allowed to say stuff when what you mean is you get disagreed with

If it wasnt allowed, it would be deleted

If it isnt deleted, it's allowed.

Ooo just seen beckys reply

seems to be fair enough

no

site stuff is a discussion board, people are allowed to discuss and state their opinion

if you want an answer from mnhq without ‘reading’ what others have to say about the subject you need to email them

Lol, the irony.
Where will you go to 'clarify the purpose' of the Site Stuff board, I wonder?

So annoying when users 'interfere' with your one-way public conversation with MNHQ.

No you didn't, you referred to trans people in a derogatory way. Don't be disingenuous.

Do you often find yourself attempting to involve institutional authority to make other people do what you want? Did any particular activist movement encourage that as a tactic? Does it actually feel worthwhile and empowering to you?

It's an open board, people can say or insinuate anything they like. If you think it breaks the talk guidelines, you can report
the post and someone from MNHQ will take a look at it and, if appropriate, delete it. But it's not for you or any other forum member to police what people are allowed to say or where they're allowed to say it.

Crikey, I said that 'just imagine what would happen if someone had a user name detrimental to trans' and even the suggestion that would not be allowed was deleted, yet the user name insult to JKR still stands.

Other posters may insinuate that, but it isn't MNHQ's responsibility to demand that only certain views are allowed on that board.

And what stops you posting? If anything breaks guidelines then report but you can choose to post and be prepared to debate your position or avoid it entirely.

The great thing with MN is that you have the option to hide topics

They do seem to want to be able to post whatever they want without any evidence, scrutiny or challenge. I wonder why they think that’s a reasonable position?

Being asked to evidence your claims is not the same as not being allowed to speak. The very opposite, in fact.

The only person who's been banned recently (afaik) for posting non-GC stuff was the bloke with his splintery rolling pin. Everyone else is welcome on here, but I do understand that for some it might be difficult to be so robustly challenged by GC women if they're not used to it.

Untrue.

I think some of these posters are thinking of Reddit and Bluesky rather than MN when they say people aren’t “allowed”.