FWR being trolled by a user called AidaP

Not sure I'm being totally relevant here as I'm not really on social media like twitter(?) reddit etc but isn't the apprpriate course of action to make formal complaint to the polce re causing alarm and distress under the public order act and to continue complainijg until the police act?

Isn't that what TRAs do and isn't that how they deal with their hurty feelz after reading social media posts and get people arrested?

While ‘fuck you’ isn’t necessarily a rape threat, specifying a phallic object with which to do it makes it so. It’s a horrendously graphic image.

This.

Yes, thanks.

A PP explained this upthread.

Wow. Patriarchy has really done a number on you.

No, fuck X with a splintery rolling pin is never ok language. You should be shocked at anyone choosing to use it for effect because whether they intend to act on it or not it's displaying a pretty vile go-to set of thoughts about women.

I invite you to consider whether you would consider equivalent language that made light of types of violence that are strongly associated with racially motivated attacks or racial injustice aimed at a Black person as sanguinely as you do rhetoric rooted in sexual violence aimed at a female person.

Threatening to fuck anyone with an implement is a rape threat. Unequivocal. Violent.

Anyone who thinks it's a 'common colloquialism' moves in dangerous circles.

I am in two minds on this. On the one hand, Operation Let Them Speak worked well; they got more visible with their signs and screaming for women to be shot, hanged, bludgeoned, decapitated, raped and pissed on, and even people who hadn't been paying attention started to realise they were just a bunch of thuggish, perverted men. On the other, not many people here on MN still need convincing of that, and his only purpose here is to disrupt and intimidate. He can say anything on the cesspit that is X where threats, overt racism and disgusting images run riot and nothing is ever done about it, so we can always get screenshots from there for the 12 people left in the country who still don't realise what he and his mates actually are.

Do we really need to put up with this here? There's a reason he chose it. People get banned if they say "I think you're a troll" too often, or are rude for too long.

Some on FWR were fund raising for him a few months ago.

Here you go. Posted 09:59, 3 above yours. P's post confirms it is his Bluesky account.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5512787-daughter-in-early-20s-lonely-due-to-gc-views?page=5&reply=151505397

He also posts several times afterwards making similar points that although he said "fuck [her] with a splintery rolling pin" it wasn't an actual rape threat, just demeaning and misogynist language that she deserves for being an uppity women so that is ok then. (I paraphrase but that is the gist).

Fair enough to miss one post but I am surprised given how active you were on the same thread at the same time you missed all the subsequent ones as well. You can see why I would have assumed you had seen it.

I agree - it does seem an odd decision, given the good faith rule.

However, it's the official decision so that's that. This thread has been very helpful though, and has highlighted exactly what sort of aggressive man he is.

yes. I recommend that you read some of the VAWG, sexual harassment policies as a start.

We’d also ask posters to be mindful about repeating or amplifying very serious allegations about other users on the boards. Even when well-intentioned, that can escalate situations quickly and make it harder for us to moderate.

Not four pages in and this already bears repeating.

@BeckyAMumsnet

I understood MN can also ban posters for not posting in good faith, and that posting on other social media platforms to comment about MN threads on which one is participating tends to been seen as such.

FWIW I personally do not want that poster banned. I think their posts speak for themselves and their true values very eloquently and the more clearly this is seen the better.

However, how on earth can the Not Posting in Good Faith rule not apply here?

I would like to mindfully repeat and amplify that AidaP has expressed a desire for his opponents to be subject to aggravated sexual assault.

Things here must have changed as he was very much persona no gratis with many for some of his off site communications

No I have second hand knowledge. And as I originally took for gospel what you guys said about the "rape threat", I am now more sceptical about your other statements.

I mean, people use that language quite frequently. It isnt particualrly shocking to me, no. Saying someone should die or be hurt, that's crossing a line. But if "fuck you" isnt inherently a rape threat ("Whether it is a "rape threat" or not"), then no, I don't think it's too far in that type of company (Social Media).

If you were at work or even on this forum, then yes, too far outside of the CoC for those places.

Agreed.

Well, now you do.

Please learn from this, and next time make sure you have the full facts before misdirecting people.

Please, take a step back and look at yourself. Whether it is a "rape threat" or not, you are defending someone who chose to demeaning a women with the phrase "fuck her with a splintery rolling pin" simply because he disagrees with her.

Surely you can't think that is ok?

I have no firsthand knowledge of that.

Yes but if I really thought "fuck that person" meant that, just the SA would be enough. Just the "fuck you/him/them/Susan".

I'm not only concerned about SA when violence is a problem. So I'd be speaking up anytime anyone said "fuck them", irrespective of whether I agreed that the person in question is bad or not.

It is certainly not just that "the username 'looks' the same".

The bloke himself has stated it is him. He is proud of it. He posted a link, on MN, to his own Bluesky account to prove this.

I'm very surprised Cecilia didn't mention that.

To be fair to AidaP, he threatened a splintery rolling pin and not a baseball bat.

The damage the pin would inflict on a woman who was being fucked by it is still horrific though.

The reason that the splintery baseball bat is particularly pertinent is the additional damage such an act would cause. Its not just the potential violent sexual assault but the permanent internal damage that would cause.