FWR being trolled by a user called AidaP

Your posts started off all faux reasonable and “oooh it’s both sides” to this. I always say, give a person enough time and they’ll show their true self. Look, we get it. It’s fine. You believe men can threaten women with rape and it’s fine but any woman not affirming a man’s “identity” is evil, and deranged. Got it.

Just realised I forgot to add the image 🤦🏻‍♀️

Misogyny will always be with us, acknowledging basic biological facts will not change that.

It’s useful to think of vulnerability as situational. So, for example, in a communal changing room where sex-based exclusions are not enforced, a woman will obviously be vulnerable in comparison with a man.

It’s also useful to remember that following safeguarding recommendations and guidelines protects men from false accusations.

Either way, men, however they identify, should stay the hell out of women’s intimate spaces.

The interpretation of the post is a creative leap by the irrational and desperate.

Why are you defending a man who thinks women should be raped with splintery rolling pins for the crime of saying no to him? In what other scenario would this be acceptable and defensible? If I said “all males with a trans identity need to be castrated with a rusty spoon”. Would that be hate speech or acceptable to you?

I dont agree that women are inherently vulnerable. I think that breeds misogyny and it isnt how I think of people of my sex. I understand you do feel that but no, I would object to the idea of us needing safeguarding as if we lack capacity as adults just by having a vagina.

Who is making things up? The post is there for all to see.

Interesting point really. Others have said similar to you but I view it quite differently.

I see statements like “fuck Trump” etc to be an abbreviation of “fuck off” ie/shut up and go away.

I see statements like “fuck bigots with a splintery rolling pin” as being more specifically about wishing (or at times threatening) women with rape. I don’t think this is just a sweary way of saying “go away”.

This particular group of people (TRAs) are very fond of making rapey threats towards women - eg/I’m going to choke you with my lady dick etc - along with the more mundane, “kill all TERFs” and so on. See attached image.

This latest delightful phrase fits beautifully with the usual violent language used by TRAs and aimed squarely at women.

I think a good acid test is often whether you’d hear a woman using the phrase. Plenty of women would say “fuck X person”. I can’t think of any woman who would say “fuck X woman with a splintery rolling pin”. It’s deeply violent imagery and even when women are disagreeing strongly with one another, this isn’t the type of language they typically use. Men on the other hand…..we all know they love these types of phrases.

I dont agree that women are inherently vulnerable

And that's precisely why nobody is taking any lessons from you on safeguarding and we can ignore everything you say. Well, it's not the only reason, but it's quite enough on its own. Thanks!

Oh no, I disagree. Everyone should see how nasty and horrible men get when they’re told no by women. Especially when those men claim to be women.

Does it concern you then that many regular contributors to FWR are, in fact, male? And have chosen either ambiguous usernames or overtly female ones to conceal the fact?

Did JKR say no to aida? Like they had a conversation where JKR said no?

I really am glad you've made this thread @Hedgehogforshort and I'm shocked to read that this person has been posting screenshots from here on his own SM. That really shows that MN is not a safe space. We already know that but you would hope that certain parts would be off limits.

I'm also a bit shocked that MN staff aren't concerned about this enough to do anything.

Actually, in several key respects we are vulnerable and do need safeguarding.

• An adult woman typically has the upper body strength of a 12 year old boy, meaning that we cannot fight off a male attacker. We are also usually lighter and shorter, with thinner weaker bones.
• Said male attacker can choose to weaponise his penis against us, leveraging our own reproductive organs to force us to become pregnant without our consent. This act is otherwise known as "vaginal rape". No woman can leave another person pregnant, and no man can be made pregnant by someone else.

These two physical differences mean that women, as a sex class, have less power than men, and so women do, as a sex class, need to be safeguarded from men. All men, even the nice ones, because we don't know who's nice and who isn't.

I wonder if it a matter of someone who has non existent or very low personal boundaries around consent and appropriate behaviour and no knowledge of safeguarding. A man who would make such a post on social media seems to have neither.

Either way, knowing that people have explained carefully how the post can be interpreted, and surely understanding how distressing the post is to the people he has spent weeks calling bigots which he used specifically in his post, that he continues posting should be at the very least considered bullying. We have pointed out to him how the post has been interpreted by us and he laughed it off.

That is most certainly not a respectful approach to a serious situation.

No i dont think TWAW. I just think it isnt that harmful if they think they are now ive seen all the reaching and exaggerating you've had to do to pretend they are dangerous.

So that's how youve pushed me from this is dangerous and should be stopped to meh, leave them be. Well done you guys! You probably change heaps of minds that way just by revealing your inner thoughts.

Oh yes, "both sides" and "the dangerous and perverted people are the ones trying to keep men out of women's changing rooms and boxing rings". Goodness, you totally got us there. We never saw that one. The mythical "genitals checks" are coming next, aren't they? Funny, because you haven't seen any genitals here abd yet we all know what's drawn you.

It's over, mate. Find another hobby.

Trying to argue that "fuck bigots with a splintery rolling pin" is perfectly acceptable language is one of the strangest takes that I've heard from the TRA crowd. And that's certainly saying something.

Also worth pointing out that AidaP is fond of screenshotting comments from MN to single out women to mock on his other social media platforms; it's very clear he's not posting here in good faith.

What ive gone from is "the whole trans thing is dangerous and they are insane", to "the insanity is on both sides and the trans people arent the most dangerous group out of the 2 of them".

Why are you defending a man who thinks women should be raped with splintery rolling pins for the crime of saying no to him? In what other scenario would this be acceptable and defensible? If I said “all males with a trans identity need to be castrated with a rusty spoon”. Would that be hate speech or acceptable to you?

Sure buddy. Sure. Have fun with that.