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SUGGESTION: Idea to replace laugh emoji with something less open to abuse

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AmethystAnnotation · 25/10/2025 08:37

This was just an idea I had.

The laugh emoji was being abused by posters who used it to laugh sarcastically at serious posts. Instead of having an emoji which is aimed at recognising a post is funny, why not introduce an emoji that recognises the wit of the poster?

This could be a positive icon such as a little trophy, scroll or rosette. It could be used for funny posts but also if a poster suggests a particularly clever answer to a dilemma, or solves a puzzle, identifies a book or item that is being searched for, etc.

Since the aim of the icon would be to say 'you are very witty/clever' I think it would be less effective as a 'sarcastic' reaction but would still allow posters to specifically recognise a post that is funny or clever.

Interested to know if others think this might work and what MNHQ think of the idea.

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AmethystAnnotation · 25/10/2025 19:58

SirChenjins · 25/10/2025 19:29

There are 3 hidden emojis that already do just what you want

Do you mean the existing agree, thanks and support? Because if I want to signify that something has amused me, none of those really fit. Or when you say 'hidden' do you mean there are some secret emojis we don't know about?

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SouthLondonMum22 · 25/10/2025 19:41

AmethystAnnotation · 25/10/2025 19:26

As I said, pretty much anything can be abused - 'support' in the sense of tiny violin, 'thanks' in the sense of slow handclap. But it seems 'laugh' was particularly open to this.

My train of thought was a reaction aimed at the poster, not the post, if that makes any sense, and a symbol that was unequivocally positive - unlike a 'laugh' which in any context can be either appreciative or derisive.

I'd just make the reactions public and bring the laugh reaction back.

SirChenjins · 25/10/2025 19:29

There are 3 hidden emojis that already do just what you want

AmethystAnnotation · 25/10/2025 19:26

SouthLondonMum22 · 25/10/2025 18:58

You don't think a trophy would be 'abused'? I can see some people giving people trophy's sarcastically, especially when they think they are smug, OTT etc.

I'd prefer to have the laughing emoji back and people grow a thicker skin.

As I said, pretty much anything can be abused - 'support' in the sense of tiny violin, 'thanks' in the sense of slow handclap. But it seems 'laugh' was particularly open to this.

My train of thought was a reaction aimed at the poster, not the post, if that makes any sense, and a symbol that was unequivocally positive - unlike a 'laugh' which in any context can be either appreciative or derisive.

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SprayWhiteDung · 25/10/2025 19:24

AliceMaforethought · 25/10/2025 17:21

Or people could just grow a thicker skin and realise that people are sometimes going to use the laugh emoji in an inappropriate way. People do it all the time on Facebook and they haven't removed their laugh emoji. I think it's pathetic that Mumsnet removed it when they let all kinds of offensive posts stand.

But it's so easy to just say that people should grow up, be adults, learn resilience, grow a thicker skin etc.

What about people who can't do that? People may have mental health issues, be grieving or have any number of other vulnerabilities. They may reach out desperately to the MN community about something that is really upsetting them - possibly with a post that, to a non-vulnerable person, may well seem absurd or pathetic - and then somebody with nothing better to do comes on and mocks them privately.

You wouldn't do it in real life, to somebody with physical difficulties, would you? If you were out driving and saw a very old lady using a zimmer frame, crossing the road extremely slowly in front of you, in a lot of visible discomfort, you wouldn't lean out of the window and shout at her to grow up or learn how to cross a road properly, would you - and then jeer at her if your shouting at her made her panic and rush and she had a fall requiring an ambulance?

Assuming not, why would anybody want to do that to often mentally vulnerable people on here?

I'm not saying that everybody is vulnerable by any means - some are clearly just madly entitled or arrogant and need telling straight; but even then, do it in the thread where everybody can see and not in private.

(where I've said 'you' above, it's a generic 'you' - I'm not accusing you personally of anything!)

AmethystAnnotation · 25/10/2025 19:21

JaneJeffer · 25/10/2025 19:09

That doesn’t necessarily mean they evolve for the best though

No, indeed not - I take that point. In many ways I miss the old monochromatic internet of the early 1990s. There will always be an element of subjectivity. That's why I started a thread rather than emailing MNHQ directly with my idea - to see whether others agreed with it.

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JaneJeffer · 25/10/2025 19:09

Theresabatinmykitchen · 25/10/2025 18:31

As with language, things evolve.

That doesn’t necessarily mean they evolve for the best though

Ponderingwindow · 25/10/2025 19:04

Strongly not in favor of a “laugh emoji”. It would absolutely be used to target people with disabilities.

People do it blatantly in threads and respond by saying someone’s reports of their own life are laughable. If they can do it with an emoji for no one else to see, the bullying will be even worse.

SouthLondonMum22 · 25/10/2025 18:58

You don't think a trophy would be 'abused'? I can see some people giving people trophy's sarcastically, especially when they think they are smug, OTT etc.

I'd prefer to have the laughing emoji back and people grow a thicker skin.

FlyingSolo16 · 25/10/2025 18:57

Borka · 25/10/2025 17:54

Grown adults should also be able to cope with not being able to use a laughing emoji. You can still post a visible laughing emoji in the thread.

Yes but imagine if there’s an active thread with 50+ posters all posting a laughing emoji?

Borka · 25/10/2025 18:41

AmethystAnnotation · 25/10/2025 18:11

Of course we can 'cope' - this isn't a matter of life and death! It's just about making the site more fun to use. Threads can get cumbersome if there are loads of posts with a single laughing emoji, and it's also nice when you find your own post has garned lots of positive reactions.

Making a suggestion to improve something isn't tantamount to saying you can't 'cope' with it in its existing form. If nothing on the internet had ever been improved we'd all be reading this in orange characters on a black screen with a few ASCII graphics if we were lucky 😄

I used the word 'cope' in response to FlyingSolo16 who used it in their post.

Theresabatinmykitchen · 25/10/2025 18:31

JaneJeffer · 25/10/2025 18:24

The laughing reaction is a fairly new thing in MN years and we managed fine without it before. If it’s going to be reinstated then it should be made public.

As with language, things evolve.

Theresabatinmykitchen · 25/10/2025 18:27

AliceMaforethought · 25/10/2025 17:21

Or people could just grow a thicker skin and realise that people are sometimes going to use the laugh emoji in an inappropriate way. People do it all the time on Facebook and they haven't removed their laugh emoji. I think it's pathetic that Mumsnet removed it when they let all kinds of offensive posts stand.

I agree, a complete over reaction, MN should have just removed the posters who misused it not ruined it for everyone else, it’s like primary school on here recently, the flowers emoji could be misused as well if posters were so inclined, are they going to remove that if it someone deems to misuse it as well?

JaneJeffer · 25/10/2025 18:24

Borka · 25/10/2025 17:54

Grown adults should also be able to cope with not being able to use a laughing emoji. You can still post a visible laughing emoji in the thread.

The laughing reaction is a fairly new thing in MN years and we managed fine without it before. If it’s going to be reinstated then it should be made public.

JaneJeffer · 25/10/2025 18:22

MidlandsGal1 · 25/10/2025 18:16

Can we have 🤦‍♀️ or 🙄
I feel it would be extremely useful

I hate 🙄 when it’s directed at another poster

FaceBothered · 25/10/2025 18:20

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 25/10/2025 12:05

Not in favour of this.

Id like to see the laugh come back. I thought it was ridiculous that it was taken away.

Me too.

Just make the reactions public, that way fewer people are likely to abuse them.

The reason not to make them public is because of cries of "buuuut MN will become a popularity contest!"

Well if that's the case, how is it any different to when a poster comments and it gets quoted over and over again with people using the laughing emoji, or saying 'Agreed'?

At least clicking the reaction button wouldn't clog up the thread with all the quoting.

MidlandsGal1 · 25/10/2025 18:16

Can we have 🤦‍♀️ or 🙄
I feel it would be extremely useful

AmethystAnnotation · 25/10/2025 18:11

Borka · 25/10/2025 17:54

Grown adults should also be able to cope with not being able to use a laughing emoji. You can still post a visible laughing emoji in the thread.

Of course we can 'cope' - this isn't a matter of life and death! It's just about making the site more fun to use. Threads can get cumbersome if there are loads of posts with a single laughing emoji, and it's also nice when you find your own post has garned lots of positive reactions.

Making a suggestion to improve something isn't tantamount to saying you can't 'cope' with it in its existing form. If nothing on the internet had ever been improved we'd all be reading this in orange characters on a black screen with a few ASCII graphics if we were lucky 😄

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Borka · 25/10/2025 17:54

FlyingSolo16 · 25/10/2025 17:19

I’m not being rude. Grown adults should be able to cope with a laughing emoji. It’s not that deep

Grown adults should also be able to cope with not being able to use a laughing emoji. You can still post a visible laughing emoji in the thread.

ThatsRoughBuddy · 25/10/2025 17:49

Oh, maybe just making likes and hearts etc visible by username would work? Then we can see who is being a dickhead and call them out. Bet people wouldn’t run to click the laugh emoji on upsetting posts if they knew we could see them doing it.

ThatsRoughBuddy · 25/10/2025 17:42

Bring back the laugh emoji!

If people misuse it MNHQ can deal with them. MNHQ deal with people posting dickhead posts so this wouldn’t create work for them.

I think most people agree that whole class punishments are unfair and ridiculous and we're actual adults so punishing us all because a handful of people were dicks is ridiculous and unfair too.

SmallPotatoAdventCalendar · 25/10/2025 17:42

@FlyingSolo16

On other threads about this it has been mentioned that some cunts posters were using the "laugh" reaction on posts about bereavement and miscarriage.

I would imagine that, for people who have lost a relative or a much wanted child, it clearly was "that deep".

Edited to add. Yes, I personally think they should bring it back and just ban (and publicly shame) anyone who acts like a dick, but it definitely was "that deep" for some posters on the receiving end.

AmethystAnnotation · 25/10/2025 17:40

SprayWhiteDung · 25/10/2025 17:29

I agree; but it would probably still be abused. Anything in a similar context could be used sarcastically - which, again, would be ubderstood as such by the poster who received it privately.

I loved the laugh emoji and used it lots to show gratitude and appreciation for a deliberately witty or hilarious comment, which MNers are so good at; but it's just another example of why we can't have nice things.

One thing I've thought would be useful would be an open-mouthed or eyebrow-raising 'shocked' emoji.

When people are telling stories of when CFs have done their worst to them - or just recounting appaling behaviour that they've observed - it would be handy to have a quick way to agree that, wow, that is shocking, disgraceful behaviour.

Maybe the flowers/support could be appropriate, if it happened recently and/or especially harrowing; but that too can seem overbearing and/or inappropriate when they weren't personally affected, or they sent the CF packing as soon as they royally tried it on.

If it comes to it, even the 'support' emoji could be used sarcastically, in the 'tiny violin' sense.

I would totally support the reinstatement of the laugh emoji, but obviously I'm not a mod so I don't have the behind the scenes view. If we can't have 😂then I just think it would be nice to have a reaction that wasn't 'support' 'agree' or 'thanks' to acknowledge witty posters.

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AmethystAnnotation · 25/10/2025 17:38

Yes, that would be a good choice!

Edit - Sorry meant to quote considertheravens' suggestion of the party hat emoji.

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Jan039 · 25/10/2025 17:33

I never got chance to use it but would like it back. Saying thanks to a funny post makes no sense to me. I use love but it's not the same.

If someone used the laughing emoji inappropriately you can be pretty sure that they'd have written a post instead (if it wasn't available) and that the post would be much worse and far more upsetting than just an emoji!

Besides there are some things so ridiculous on here that all you can do is laugh - penis beaker, snapped and farted, owl noises and screaming at the Sistine Chapel for a start. Just don't have it on certain boards such as MH - although that's probably beyond MN's IT department tbf 🙄.

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