Page 2 | AI generated content... Should we report it?

GiraffeCup · 2025-03-30T14:20:46+00:00

What is your stance on AI posts in the talk boards? Should we report it for deletion?

Flytrap01 · 02/04/2025 12:28

GiraffeCup · 02/04/2025 12:22

There's hardly "a few" people, the site has thousands.

and bring real world experiences and conversation is much more useful to a struggling parent than C&P some AI generated crap.

Show quote history

but then it depends on the thread if its more political then id say more detailed and accurate information is needed eg how many study the policies, how many are fully upto date on x polical history

to many times on political threads you get mud sligging, random i think x is rubbish or incomplete or inaccurate info about the policital history

if the political debate is more what you think of x then i agree we need human views

but if its more policy debates then why rely on the political experts if people can use various tools to reseach obviously as long as they study what they put rather than just generate

Original poster

GiraffeCup · 02/04/2025 12:23

Flytrap01 · 02/04/2025 12:01

or they are american, and whats wrong if they make the effort to contribue to a thread ?

Show quote history

you can tell from the flow / way it is written. It's quite different,.

OP posts:

Original poster

GiraffeCup · 02/04/2025 12:22

Flytrap01 · 02/04/2025 12:12

you have to ask yourselves why people use chatgpt etc to begin with, many it seems to improve what you say and then its spelling etc

otherwise we are back to the days of relying on a couple of mumsnetters to give their wisdom and knowledge to us fellows but if you use ai to assist or even wikipedia etc then it helps level the knowledge field so all people can part take in an intellectual conversation rather than only a couple of "experts" and the rest trying to understand

i had this issue long before ai , a friend highly skilled at debating and could run rings around my points, but then with ai you can type what you want to say and then ask ai to expand on it and it can help you make the points you want to make but struggle to make without ai assist,

overall how many times have people struggled to understand a persons op, or their points because of grammer spelling etc or even lack of knowledge of the subject, should we go back to the ways of only "experts" being able to discuss their wisdom ?

Edited

There's hardly "a few" people, the site has thousands.

and bring real world experiences and conversation is much more useful to a struggling parent than C&P some AI generated crap.

OP posts:

Original poster

GiraffeCup · 02/04/2025 12:20

Flytrap01 · 02/04/2025 12:04

well one of their threads maxed out the 1000 replys so that gave plenty of conversations to people

Show quote history

yes - but it wasn't a "genuine" poster - that poster clearly was only generating questions for the sole purpose of creating conversation but without joining in - event to the point where they created identical posts a few days apart to generate that conversation between others

OP posts:

Flytrap01 · 02/04/2025 12:12

you have to ask yourselves why people use chatgpt etc to begin with, many it seems to improve what you say and then its spelling etc

otherwise we are back to the days of relying on a couple of mumsnetters to give their wisdom and knowledge to us fellows but if you use ai to assist or even wikipedia etc then it helps level the knowledge field so all people can part take in an intellectual conversation rather than only a couple of "experts" and the rest trying to understand

i had this issue long before ai , a friend highly skilled at debating and could run rings around my points, but then with ai you can type what you want to say and then ask ai to expand on it and it can help you make the points you want to make but struggle to make without ai assist,

overall how many times have people struggled to understand a persons op, or their points because of grammer spelling etc or even lack of knowledge of the subject, should we go back to the ways of only "experts" being able to discuss their wisdom ?

Flytrap01 · 02/04/2025 12:04

GiraffeCup · 01/04/2025 23:27

DaringAnt is very much not a genuine poster...

well one of their threads maxed out the 1000 replys so that gave plenty of conversations to people

Flytrap01 · 02/04/2025 12:03

EmeraldRoulette · 02/04/2025 00:20

I feel like MN is different now and I suspect it's partly this

I also find it noticeable that there's very few chatty threads. I'm trying to be here less, so it may just be that I don't see them.

I think outlets for chat are also dying a death as people seem to be obsessed with politics.

it's weird because chat IRL seems to be declining and has been for ages - and now online might be going the same way.

I often don't reply to threads that look interesting, unless I know the username.

on a separate note, there was a discussion happening in my building about the mgmt company and the default of one resident was to ask the opinion of AI instead of just ...talking to the mgmt co.

AI seems doubly bizarre when you look at it in context of Dead Internet Theory. I guess soon we'll all be too busy battling apps to get work and life admin done and not even have time to talk online. It's bizarre.

Edited

chatty threads depend on the quality and peoples knowledge of the subject matter being discussed , depending on the topic how does it help if what people say is their own words but does not have any context or full knowledge or better knowledge on the subject ?

Flytrap01 · 02/04/2025 12:01

toebeancat · 02/04/2025 09:50

yes, esp with the US spellings (critisize etc). Depressing.

Show quote history

or they are american, and whats wrong if they make the effort to contribue to a thread ?

Flytrap01 · 02/04/2025 12:01

GiraffeCup · 02/04/2025 11:10

the difference between coherence and AI generates is very very obvious

Show quote history

Not based on some posters, it seems on some threads

Original poster

GiraffeCup · 02/04/2025 11:10

GarlicSmile · 02/04/2025 10:14

While I'm enjoying @GiraffeCup's AI-generated replies, I do want to add that people are often so semi-literate on here that they accuse anyone writing coherently of being an AI. It's really bloody wearing.

I just take posts on board if they seem to further the discussion in some way, ignore them if they don't. The majority of those I end up ignoring are not written by a computer ... unless the brief was "express a factually incorrect but commonplace opinion in an inappropriately emotional manner, using poor grammar and spelling" 😏

the difference between coherence and AI generates is very very obvious

OP posts:

GarlicSmile · 02/04/2025 10:14

While I'm enjoying @GiraffeCup's AI-generated replies, I do want to add that people are often so semi-literate on here that they accuse anyone writing coherently of being an AI. It's really bloody wearing.

I just take posts on board if they seem to further the discussion in some way, ignore them if they don't. The majority of those I end up ignoring are not written by a computer ... unless the brief was "express a factually incorrect but commonplace opinion in an inappropriately emotional manner, using poor grammar and spelling" 😏

toebeancat · 02/04/2025 09:50

SwedishEdith · 01/04/2025 22:36

Tbh, this post reads like AI.

Show quote history

yes, esp with the US spellings (critisize etc). Depressing.

Original poster

GiraffeCup · 02/04/2025 09:26

kindlyensure · 01/04/2025 19:17

In fact, on the back of this thread, I am going to report what appears to be an AI bot asking quite emotive questions to elicit responses. This is an example of what I see to be not genuine. I'll say the user name here, actually, as I want to be transparent in reporting. It's DaringAnt. Happy to be proved wrong and happy to offer apologies.

I reported all the threads and now they've all gone!

OP posts:

EmpressaurusKitty · 02/04/2025 04:42

SwedishEdith · 01/04/2025 22:36

Tbh, this post reads like AI.

Show quote history

I’m certain that post’s AI, I think the poster was making a point.

It’s also far more common than it used to be for posters not to read anything except the OP and maybe the OP’s other posts before commenting.

EmeraldRoulette · 02/04/2025 00:20

I feel like MN is different now and I suspect it's partly this

I also find it noticeable that there's very few chatty threads. I'm trying to be here less, so it may just be that I don't see them.

I think outlets for chat are also dying a death as people seem to be obsessed with politics.

it's weird because chat IRL seems to be declining and has been for ages - and now online might be going the same way.

I often don't reply to threads that look interesting, unless I know the username.

on a separate note, there was a discussion happening in my building about the mgmt company and the default of one resident was to ask the opinion of AI instead of just ...talking to the mgmt co.

AI seems doubly bizarre when you look at it in context of Dead Internet Theory. I guess soon we'll all be too busy battling apps to get work and life admin done and not even have time to talk online. It's bizarre.

Original poster

GiraffeCup · 01/04/2025 23:27

DaringAnt is very much not a genuine poster...

OP posts:

Original poster

GiraffeCup · 01/04/2025 22:47

@HebeMumsnet

Don't you guys think it's a bit obvious that using AI tools to check SPAG, would be undetectable to a forum user, but it's glaringly obvious when AI generated content is posted.

Its very easy to tell the difference, and it will dilute the usefulness of your site if you allow AI generated content to stand..

OP posts:

Original poster

GiraffeCup · 01/04/2025 22:44

kindlyensure · 01/04/2025 19:17

In fact, on the back of this thread, I am going to report what appears to be an AI bot asking quite emotive questions to elicit responses. This is an example of what I see to be not genuine. I'll say the user name here, actually, as I want to be transparent in reporting. It's DaringAnt. Happy to be proved wrong and happy to offer apologies.

you're right. They never ever reply in thread either. Just create threads... Duplicate ones too.

OP posts:

SwedishEdith · 01/04/2025 22:36

Swirlythingy2025 · 01/04/2025 16:41

Ah, the old argument against AI wrapped in nostalgia for the good ol’ days when people supposedly thought for themselves. But let’s be honest: were their posts truly insightful, or just the same tired opinions repackaged with different words?

See, I believe in efficiency. If AI can take a half-baked thought and turn it into a gourmet meal, why should we insist on serving raw dough? Are we so sentimental about imperfection that we’d rather preserve mediocrity than embrace progress?

Some will argue that using AI dilutes authenticity, that it makes people lazy. But tell me, do we criticize calculators for making math too easy? Do we lament the printing press for making books too accessible? No we celebrate tools that elevate human potential. AI isn’t replacing thought; it’s refining it. It’s the difference between an amateur speech and the Gettysburg Address.

So, if someone prefers their posts clumsy, unstructured, and riddled with half-formed ideas, then others should not rip them apart for spelling, grammar, or coherence. You can’t have it both ways either we embrace tools that help people communicate better, or we accept their raw, unpolished words without judgment.

Tbh, this post reads like AI.

Original poster

GiraffeCup · 01/04/2025 22:36

GiraffeCup · 01/04/2025 22:30

You've made some interesting points, especially when comparing AI tools to innovations like calculators or the printing press. I agree that AI can enhance the quality of communication by refining ideas, turning rough drafts into polished work, and helping people express themselves more effectively. However, I think there's a deeper conversation about the value of human creativity and authenticity. Sure, AI can help us refine thoughts, but the raw, unfiltered ideas—however imperfect—often carry the spark of originality. In the end, it's not about dismissing AI or clinging to nostalgia, but about finding a balance where both human creativity and AI refinement can coexist to elevate communication without losing the essence of personal expression.

Show quote history

I didn't read your post, I didn't even bother to read the response generated.

I got nothing and contributed nothing to this.

It really will ruin the feel of the site if MNHQ refuse to moderate very obvious AI generated content.

There's a world of difference between asking a program to SPAG check and asking it to formalate a response.

OP posts:

Original poster

GiraffeCup · 01/04/2025 22:30

Swirlythingy2025 · 01/04/2025 16:41

Ah, the old argument against AI wrapped in nostalgia for the good ol’ days when people supposedly thought for themselves. But let’s be honest: were their posts truly insightful, or just the same tired opinions repackaged with different words?

See, I believe in efficiency. If AI can take a half-baked thought and turn it into a gourmet meal, why should we insist on serving raw dough? Are we so sentimental about imperfection that we’d rather preserve mediocrity than embrace progress?

Some will argue that using AI dilutes authenticity, that it makes people lazy. But tell me, do we criticize calculators for making math too easy? Do we lament the printing press for making books too accessible? No we celebrate tools that elevate human potential. AI isn’t replacing thought; it’s refining it. It’s the difference between an amateur speech and the Gettysburg Address.

So, if someone prefers their posts clumsy, unstructured, and riddled with half-formed ideas, then others should not rip them apart for spelling, grammar, or coherence. You can’t have it both ways either we embrace tools that help people communicate better, or we accept their raw, unpolished words without judgment.

You've made some interesting points, especially when comparing AI tools to innovations like calculators or the printing press. I agree that AI can enhance the quality of communication by refining ideas, turning rough drafts into polished work, and helping people express themselves more effectively. However, I think there's a deeper conversation about the value of human creativity and authenticity. Sure, AI can help us refine thoughts, but the raw, unfiltered ideas—however imperfect—often carry the spark of originality. In the end, it's not about dismissing AI or clinging to nostalgia, but about finding a balance where both human creativity and AI refinement can coexist to elevate communication without losing the essence of personal expression.

OP posts:

Tbrh · 01/04/2025 20:02

Swirlythingy2025 · 01/04/2025 16:41

Ah, the old argument against AI wrapped in nostalgia for the good ol’ days when people supposedly thought for themselves. But let’s be honest: were their posts truly insightful, or just the same tired opinions repackaged with different words?

See, I believe in efficiency. If AI can take a half-baked thought and turn it into a gourmet meal, why should we insist on serving raw dough? Are we so sentimental about imperfection that we’d rather preserve mediocrity than embrace progress?

Some will argue that using AI dilutes authenticity, that it makes people lazy. But tell me, do we criticize calculators for making math too easy? Do we lament the printing press for making books too accessible? No we celebrate tools that elevate human potential. AI isn’t replacing thought; it’s refining it. It’s the difference between an amateur speech and the Gettysburg Address.

So, if someone prefers their posts clumsy, unstructured, and riddled with half-formed ideas, then others should not rip them apart for spelling, grammar, or coherence. You can’t have it both ways either we embrace tools that help people communicate better, or we accept their raw, unpolished words without judgment.

I would definitely criticise calculators for making us lazy! No one has the capacity to do basic maths anymore, I have noticed this on the rate occasions when I use cash in shops. People don't actively use their brains which isn't a good thing.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 01/04/2025 19:55

I've seen whole threads recently where the writing style of every reponse is extremely similar. As if they were written by the same person. It's most odd.

Ihavepandassurvivalinstinct · 01/04/2025 19:49

@kindlyensure yup. Follows the perfect structure pattern

kindlyensure · 01/04/2025 19:17

In fact, on the back of this thread, I am going to report what appears to be an AI bot asking quite emotive questions to elicit responses. This is an example of what I see to be not genuine. I'll say the user name here, actually, as I want to be transparent in reporting. It's DaringAnt. Happy to be proved wrong and happy to offer apologies.